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peasant one

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84. they are both wrong

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:08 PM

Mar 2012

But there is a difference of degree and a difference, I think, of intent. Words can have different meanings in different contexts. For example if I say, "I hate you!" while smiling because you just ate my cookie---that statement is a lot different than saying those same words while pointing a gun at my head. Please stop a minute and listen to others before you jump them for not agreeing with you. I believe most people on this thread are not condoning what Maher said but recognize that the tone, context and intent may (i say MAY) have been different than when Limbaugh said the same words. I think because of the context, tone and intent behind Limbaugh's use of these words, this attitude toward women is now seen by the general public as wrong. This is a watershed moment and will impact, I believe, the words that Maher and his ilk will use in the future.

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I've been gone a few days swamped at work and this is what I come back to? [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 OP

This: "...demand an end to sexism from everyone -- equally..." CrispyQ Mar 2012 #1

I was pissed at Maher among other things for telling us Rush apologized, get over it. roguevalley Mar 2012 #14

kick ass, woman. i am hearin you roar. seabeyond Mar 2012 #2

So much energy wasted on Limbaugh...in the quest to 'get him off the air' lacrew Mar 2012 #3

So please provide a link... ljm2002 Mar 2012 #11

Few are giving him a pass now and few gave him a pass then... Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #4

maher is not guilty of only one crude on liner. and i agree, not comparable to limbaughs 3 day seabeyond Mar 2012 #5

I didn't say ONE on-liner. I believe it was 3 in 10 days. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #6

i agree with all you say. that is the thing. if he had called her just a slut and prostitute, that seabeyond Mar 2012 #7

where do you get off? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #8

+1000! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #34

Oh please, how ridiculous TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #9

Wow! Really? HuckleB Mar 2012 #20

Yes, really! TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #27

Try again. HuckleB Mar 2012 #88

Back at'cha! TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #91

Did you say something? HuckleB Mar 2012 #92

Evidently written words are a problem for you TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #94

I disagree. The C word should never be used. It is objectively offensive and sexist. nt Liquorice Mar 2012 #23

Sexism isn't defined that way TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #26

I don't need a lesson on what sexism is. Believe me. And Liquorice Mar 2012 #29

So, that you're a woman gives you the power to know what a man feels? TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #85

I know how I feel when a man calls me a c. Clearly that's what I meant. It is Liquorice Mar 2012 #86

You're missing all of the points I've made, I'd argue intentionally TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #87

Exactly. HuckleB Mar 2012 #89

Go back to work. Swede Mar 2012 #10

Maher is also an anti-science dufus, much like most of the GOP. HuckleB Mar 2012 #21

How exactly is Maher anti-science? Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #46

All you had to do was Google Bill Maher and anti-science. It's not hard, but here are some examples. HuckleB Mar 2012 #90

Please watch the VIDEO on the link below Tx4obama Mar 2012 #12

Why does it matter if it's 1 time or 53 times? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #13

Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #16

Please point out where I even hinted at it being OK for Limbaugh Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #30

Even once is too many. No excuse. emilyg Mar 2012 #15

+1.000 !!! Zalatix Mar 2012 #58

Umm... HuckleB Mar 2012 #22

When Bill Maher can command the course of the Democratic party, then you'll have a point. baldguy Mar 2012 #17

Your OP ProSense Mar 2012 #18

I'm a woman too. What's your point? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #31

Really? ProSense Mar 2012 #38

You quoted me at length and still misinterpreted (or distorted) what I wrote Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #41

You still ProSense Mar 2012 #45

People who enable sexism are not better than the sexists they make excuses for. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #53

Wait ProSense Mar 2012 #59

Let the Rude Pundit call conservative women CUNTS though? You'll have dozens here defending him. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #19

I've seen the name around and chose not to click -- because of the name. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #32

i remember the thread. one of the biggest fight threads.... seabeyond Mar 2012 #40

Uhmmm, okay. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #24

So, have you signed this petition? countryjake Mar 2012 #25

you sound like you've been listening to hannity at work certainot Mar 2012 #28

Let us know when the democrats start using Bill Mahr to legislate sufrommich Mar 2012 #33

Allow me to sum up your critics: "Only RUSHBOT infiltrators protest sexist remarks from the Left!" Zalatix Mar 2012 #35

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #39

Well, so far the defense of false equivalency is so shallow as to be laughable Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #49

Do you ProSense Mar 2012 #51

Please quote me accurately. I wrote Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #54

I checked ProSense Mar 2012 #62

NOT BULLSHIT. I've been called a Rushbot because of this. FACT!!! Zalatix Mar 2012 #52

Again ProSense Mar 2012 #63

"Only RUSHBOT infiltrators protest sexist remarks from the Left!" seabeyond Mar 2012 #64

No, they are accused of being rushbots and agents of the Right. Zalatix Mar 2012 #65

so, all the years i have criticized and called out the mahers, sterns, flints, seabeyond Mar 2012 #66

Really, you should. Zalatix Mar 2012 #69

I think ProSense Mar 2012 #71

you said... allow me to sum up your critics seabeyond Mar 2012 #73

No ProSense Mar 2012 #78

ah, thanks prosense. that was the clarification i needed seabeyond Mar 2012 #79

You are happy to wallow in ignorance. Two of us have refuted you. Zalatix Mar 2012 #67

And ProSense Mar 2012 #72

Yawn. Ignorance is bliss. I've been through the crap you say doesn't happen. Zalatix Mar 2012 #77

And here's another example of why you are wrong. Zalatix Mar 2012 #95

I think Maher may start to get the picture. mmonk Mar 2012 #36

schultz does not even come close to being aligned with others. maher? seabeyond Mar 2012 #61

He has both a libertarian and tit for tat streak. mmonk Mar 2012 #75

i agree with that, too. another thing, a continual statement that either moore or maher seabeyond Mar 2012 #76

I get what you're saying and agree - not sure if the comparison works this time though TBF Mar 2012 #37

the paragraph is perfect. it isnt about being comparable. it is about being consistent. nt seabeyond Mar 2012 #42

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #43

I just agree that we should hold ourselves to a high standard as well. TBF Mar 2012 #50

I completely ProSense Mar 2012 #56

Not boycotting someone is NOT giving him a pass. There IS something inbetween. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #44

that is where so much is going wrong in the discussion. limbaugh and maher are not the same. seabeyond Mar 2012 #57

Has anyone in this forum boycotted the anti-semitic, domestic abuser, vile language Mel Gibson? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #47

The right wing is taking a beating over Rush's remarks Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #48

I dunno. If Rush was a doctrinaire liberal would he have been as strongly condemned? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #55

Are ProSense Mar 2012 #60

perhaps not by all liberals SwampG8r Mar 2012 #80

At present ProSense Mar 2012 #82

Wow TBF Mar 2012 #68

i do get heartened seeing the number of people that have their line of appropriate seabeyond Mar 2012 #70

Well said! We must ignore sexism from anyone in our camp or the Right wins! Zalatix Mar 2012 #93

This LWer thinks Maher is an asshole. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #74

oh brotherrrrr fascisthunter Mar 2012 #81

I'll never get over a U.S. that tortures which makes me "out" just1voice Mar 2012 #83

they are both wrong peasant one Mar 2012 #84