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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:03 AM Nov 2013

My wife thoughts on the whole Rape culture and porn debates she has seen on DU [View all]

This is a rant I heard her "give" when talking to a friend of hers so some is paraphrased but the ideas are there.


Let me also say that she was raped as a teenager. She often has told me Rape isn't really about the sexual aspects but the idea of power and control of a person.


She explained/ranted:


Two consensual people role playing during sex doesn't need to be regulated we have a larger problem in this country. This country has a power hungry culture and a disrespecting culture and we have to stop looking at it as individual issues and looked at it for the large problem we have.

We have this idea in this culture that we are always right and no one deserves to be in control like "we" do. I don't mean everyone in this country but there is a large majority in this country who needs to control something in some way shape or form- be it a legislator holding up a bill because he doesn't like the president or the majority in charge or owner of a business treating her workers poorly because she like to see people suffering or a man abusing a woman sexually physically or mentally even a woman abusing a child in the above ways.

Until we can start admitting we have this power need we will never be able to truly progress to a better culture.

More and more we are seeing all aspects of power going to people's head. Like the cop who is using force for a traffic stop or christian fundamentalists trying to force their religious belief on others.

And until we learn to curve this need we will see ourselves digress further into this nightmare. We need to stop dividing the bigger issue into smaller chunks and giving them names. Culture of rape culture of race-hatred. We need to start teaching that it is NOT okay to disrespect and control ANYONE even if you have the money, authority, or ability to do so. We need to start seeing one another as being equal to ourselves AND perhaps we need to start looking at each other as the mirror of ourselves.

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I hope no one is offended by my wife's words I felt the need to share them.






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Your wife sounds like a very smart woman. Scuba Nov 2013 #1
Your wife is indeed very smart. Triana Nov 2013 #2
This is excellent - TBF Nov 2013 #3
something I learned when my children were small Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #4
Your wife is right on lillypaddle Nov 2013 #5
She is a really smart woman... Grey Nov 2013 #6
Love this! ColumbusLib Nov 2013 #7
rape is all about power and control. the same as your wife's post. interesting. but, seabeyond Nov 2013 #8
Your wife needs to post more. n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #9
K&R.... daleanime Nov 2013 #10
So she is an advocate of RAPE PORN then? TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #11
and you are missing her point. Two CONSENTING ADULTS engaged in role play is not the same diabeticman Nov 2013 #14
and bdsm has nothing to do with rape. they have power and control. rape the rapist has the power seabeyond Nov 2013 #17
And so are you (warning, likely triggers ahead) Scootaloo Nov 2013 #32
but... this would not be violent. we have redefined what violent is for porn. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #37
Ok - anyone who gets off on that shit is pretty messed up. That's just sick. smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #51
I'm not missing the point TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #47
I do apologize. It amazes me how some people are just grasping at one point of my wife's rant diabeticman Nov 2013 #48
Exactly TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #54
Who's advocating for regulating adults having consensual sex? kcr Nov 2013 #12
There have been different discussions on DU about trying to criminalize "rape porn" not to mention diabeticman Nov 2013 #16
I know. kcr Nov 2013 #18
Exhibit A, from another thread this morning: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #36
So, you can point to one person that wants to ban porn in general. kcr Nov 2013 #38
"Who's advocating for regulating adults having consensual sex?" LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #39
I think it was pretty straightforward. kcr Nov 2013 #42
Well, we are advancing. It's now "almost" no one. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #45
Well thanks for noting that. kcr Nov 2013 #46
*sigh* OK, lessee what we got here: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #49
There are good points made but where did anyone say MadrasT Nov 2013 #13
Part of this has to do with UK wanting to criminalize "Rape Porn" and not just that thread but all diabeticman Nov 2013 #19
So she's saying "people should be free to make fake rape videos, but they should choose not to"? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #15
What she is saying that people need to be EDUCATED more and and considering we have people diabeticman Nov 2013 #20
not to mention the rape porn that is real that people are getting off on, but hey, lets not even seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
I don't know where "Rape Porn" is real? You are talking about TWO different subjects. People diabeticman Nov 2013 #22
The people speaking out about rape porn gollygee Nov 2013 #23
THan this is a WHOLE category of porn unknown to us or my wife's friends. Because some of the diabeticman Nov 2013 #24
People are throwing out this strawman gollygee Nov 2013 #25
My wife is wondering if people are seeing BDSM pictures and movies and are equating them to diabeticman Nov 2013 #27
No, we're talking about rape porn gollygee Nov 2013 #28
maybe because some parts of SMBD involve "rape fantasies". in the middle of the role play diabeticman Nov 2013 #30
If it says "Contains real rape scenes" on the packaging gollygee Nov 2013 #31
Oh! My wife will double check with her but she doubts they have ever encountered that. diabeticman Nov 2013 #33
In 2007, two 8-year olds and a 9-year old was accused of raping a girl. KitSileya Nov 2013 #40
Well said, gollygee. historylovr Nov 2013 #44
The point of the videos is that the intended viewer thinks that it is real muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #26
what is normal porn? Some people find it unacceptable to see two girls doing sexual acts diabeticman Nov 2013 #29
Rape porn is something that looks like a violent crime muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #34
This is something I will show my wife. I will let her answer that. diabeticman Nov 2013 #35
As I see it - and have outlined on DU before -, Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #41
Liberalism has its blind spots. truedelphi Nov 2013 #53
Power Over, or G_j Nov 2013 #43
Please thank your wife for me. woo me with science Nov 2013 #50
Sounds like you married a very insightful intelligent woman IronLionZion Nov 2013 #52
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