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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
83. you need to understand one is intentionally hurting for one or both to get off is STILL
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:46 PM
Nov 2013

violence.

fuck

crazy.....

non consensual, that its for me, anything else goes if there is consent loli phabay Nov 2013 #1
another vote for this one. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #90
I'm with you. n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #114
Agree! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #125
I agree as well Throckmorton Nov 2013 #137
Same n/t maddezmom Nov 2013 #205
I think so too. shenmue Nov 2013 #206
On a practical level, that has to be it. Otherwise you really are butting into people's bedrooms. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #225
on a counterpoint, if people want to film what they do in their bedroom and share with others loli phabay Nov 2013 #230
I'm with you there, pretty much. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #236
the amateur stuff is getting better, now with interaction on cams etc loli phabay Nov 2013 #237
I usually apply that term to the non-consensual ones... MrScorpio Nov 2013 #2
Things that cause more pain than pleasure. Of course, that's very subjective. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #3
Some people find pain pleasurable... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #133
Masochist says "Beat me!" Sadist says, "No!" Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #152
Non-consensual acts, but also Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #4
Does that include spanking? Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #6
I don't think I could go for slapping Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #122
Pedophilia, rape, humiliation, bdsm, etc. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #5
So, when my ex-gf would... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #67
"that was violence on par with rape" that would fit the definition of violent if intent was to hurt seabeyond Nov 2013 #72
The pain is the point of getting bitten or smacked... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #75
no. i did not say that. intent to hurt, then violent. consent or not, doesnt matter. and no seabeyond Nov 2013 #76
So wait... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #78
i do not get why the definition of violence is so hard. intentional hit in face = violence. violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #79
So, even if I want it... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #84
who said you could not have it. if you want violence inflicted on you, go at it haus. STILL seabeyond Nov 2013 #86
because not everyone has the same concept of what is violence. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #92
hey. so we throw away the dictionary cause we have to self define in order to do something? really? seabeyond Nov 2013 #94
let's not fight about word definitions. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #98
because we choose to blur the definition of words so we can easily swallow something. rape, violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #99
+1000. polly7 Nov 2013 #100
again, thank you for the back up reinforcing my point. of course violence includes and goes seabeyond Nov 2013 #101
You were accusing the poster of 'self-defining'. polly7 Nov 2013 #102
physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. seabeyond Nov 2013 #103
thanks! Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #104
You're welcome! I just thought you made a great point. nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #107
4 to 10 time a week?! Locrian Nov 2013 #126
I had a different smiley in mind... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #136
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #200
Who the fuck are you to say "Gay porn is naturally violent"? William769 Nov 2013 #202
Who the fuck is anyone to say some biting or a kickass spanking is unnatural? bobclark86 Nov 2013 #207
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #212
What does 'we've seen studies come up' mean? What 'studies'? Where? Did they 'come up' or Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #7
Anything involving sheep dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #8
rofl, thats baaaaaaaad. loli phabay Nov 2013 #10
Sounds like the old Baaaaaaaaasil Australian joke. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #12
ewe should be ashamed of yourself name not needed Nov 2013 #105
Anything past NO! liberal N proud Nov 2013 #9
Worst yet, anything past a safe word. nt MrScorpio Nov 2013 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #11
Hmmm....holding the door to the bedroom open for someone might be bad The Straight Story Nov 2013 #13
That's a very interesting article. KitSileya Nov 2013 #17
Tactics themselves say loads daybranch Nov 2013 #18
so, alone in a room with a man, pressuring her, the more she says no, the more pressure, until.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
this is sexual violence. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #95
Are you seriously saying that a drunk woman can't be raped? KitSileya Nov 2013 #23
I think what you are describing is a predatory asshole. You might be right that someone can be a el_bryanto Nov 2013 #26
It may not be rape according to the law books, KitSileya Nov 2013 #28
I don't disagree with you - I think trying to define the exact border between rape and non-rape el_bryanto Nov 2013 #60
+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #227
Your post appears to be in support of sexual predation .... etherealtruth Nov 2013 #29
Not according to a DU jury (gag!) KitSileya Nov 2013 #33
Amazing etherealtruth Nov 2013 #35
DU has become a very hostile place for women. KitSileya Nov 2013 #38
Unfortunately this is something many on this board have noticed etherealtruth Nov 2013 #49
I did vote to leave it alone el_bryanto Nov 2013 #57
And I think it should be hidden. KitSileya Nov 2013 #61
There are different types of abuse. Violence is the imposition of one's will upon another. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #96
Copy and paste in case of deletion. KitSileya Nov 2013 #119
You are incorrect, and chervilant Nov 2013 #128
non consensual only. bigwillq Nov 2013 #14
for many here Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #121
Why this sudden zeal on DU to get others to accept violence as acceptable sexual expression? Skidmore Nov 2013 #15
^^This^^ hlthe2b Nov 2013 #20
yes. this. thank you. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #22
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #27
There's something tricky about this issue el_bryanto Nov 2013 #30
we also oppose the abuse of the lack of voice. with this one issue, we throw them under the bus seabeyond Nov 2013 #36
That is an interesting statement el_bryanto Nov 2013 #42
you and others want to shut this conversation down with religion/morally wrong. that is not where seabeyond Nov 2013 #44
I don't want to shut down any conversation - and I apologize if I give off that aura el_bryanto Nov 2013 #46
in ALL my life, my line is never to purposely hurt another. i figure i am pretty safe seabeyond Nov 2013 #50
That's a good line; makes sense to me. el_bryanto Nov 2013 #53
Actually, the level of sexism and misogyny on this site chervilant Nov 2013 #142
That's because it's a first amendment issue. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #148
Oh, yes, of a certainty... chervilant Nov 2013 #214
Enslavement is illegal. Fiction is not. ntt rrneck Nov 2013 #216
Wow... chervilant Nov 2013 #218
You're welcome. rrneck Nov 2013 #220
So, chervilant Nov 2013 #221
I'm interested in freedom of expression rrneck Nov 2013 #223
And I yours. nt chervilant Nov 2013 #224
So adults who deliberately and willfully engage in activites like .. MicaelS Nov 2013 #110
somehow I think Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #123
except someone in the thread already put that up... and i stated yes, that would be violence. seabeyond Nov 2013 #131
A very good question... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #153
does the definition of violence = illegal? do you see all violence as criminal behavior? seabeyond Nov 2013 #157
That seems to be where you draw the line. nt backscatter712 Nov 2013 #160
you are wrong. ONE post, where anywhere i have even kinda suggested. you make up bogus fuckin seabeyond Nov 2013 #161
Here in this thread... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #163
it is a definition of the WORD violence. wtf? seabeyond Nov 2013 #165
Something to think about... rrneck Nov 2013 #193
bullshit. they are absolutely redefining violence. the basis is they do not want seabeyond Nov 2013 #197
What definition are they attempting to change it to? nt rrneck Nov 2013 #213
do you THINK when i say academia describes invasive surgery as violent on the body i am seabeyond Nov 2013 #184
"People consenting to X have issues" backscatter712 Nov 2013 #146
And how did you get all that from "they have issues"? Seems an enormous leap... n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #228
If you don't understand it, you have no business having an opinion about it. sibelian Nov 2013 #154
so, porn has freedom of speech but a poster on a discussion board does not? seabeyond Nov 2013 #158
Yeah, tell me about it. Skidmore Nov 2013 #180
if its not your kink dont do it, but what you describe is part of a lot of peoples sex life loli phabay Nov 2013 #231
I guess for some it really is pleasurable. And I don't feel it's my place to judge. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #232
Anything past NO. HappyMe Nov 2013 #16
The comments on article The Straight Story quoted were illuminating KitSileya Nov 2013 #19
so much in your post but addressing this. can always call them prudes, sex negative, shame them.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #25
^^All that - right on the money^^ nt xulamaude Nov 2013 #88
I don't know where you live, but... Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #166
If indeed the numbers are down, that is wonderful. KitSileya Nov 2013 #204
George W. Bush is the classic Republican gulliver Nov 2013 #24
Anything not agreed to by partner and imposed on them on point Nov 2013 #31
Certainly criminal acts are violent anyway gollygee Nov 2013 #32
Something one of the parties doesn't want get the red out Nov 2013 #34
if a woman says... hit me. and a man hits her. that is not violent? seabeyond Nov 2013 #39
Sorry to offend get the red out Nov 2013 #43
sticking a huge dick in the mouth and aggressively pumping causing massive pain. is that violent? seabeyond Nov 2013 #45
I'm sorry get the red out Nov 2013 #113
Welcome to her world. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #170
what a prude. you guys can defend this shit 'til cows come home, but cant say it outloud? lmFAO seabeyond Nov 2013 #175
I understand you. And it's why I give these threads a wide berth. I'm not down on Sea, but there is freshwest Nov 2013 #239
Your good, that poster is out of control. Agschmid Dec 2013 #240
Wow. Who needs internet rape porn when we've got posters like this? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #174
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #186
Sure it's "violent" in the strictest sense of aggressive behavior. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #233
Any that don't include complete, enthusiastic consent by both parties. MineralMan Nov 2013 #37
definition of violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #40
Interesting rrneck Nov 2013 #64
it took me a while to really get people thought the definition was CONSENT. seabeyond Nov 2013 #65
It's an important distinction. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #66
rape is one form of violence, but not the only one BainsBane Nov 2013 #41
physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something seabeyond Nov 2013 #47
Cheating FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #48
Something can be both violent and consensual gollygee Nov 2013 #51
many seems to be clueless, amazingly. only with sex acts. ask what consititute violence in films seabeyond Nov 2013 #54
Anything your partner doesn't agree to. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #52
Suddenly everyone's all fuzzy about consent and choice Prism Nov 2013 #55
suddenly everyone is all fuzzy on the definition of violence, simply because it is seabeyond Nov 2013 #59
When spanking is "violence" Prism Nov 2013 #62
from the very start of the post. you ignore what i posted to you and fabricate an argument seabeyond Nov 2013 #63
Again we see people inventing arguments to hoist on to feminists BainsBane Nov 2013 #68
I read the threads! Prism Nov 2013 #70
Finally someone said it out loud... truebrit71 Nov 2013 #81
Well damn LittleBlue Nov 2013 #87
ya. giving definition of violence is absolutely sexually negative. or honest anyway. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #89
Uh oh. HappyMe Nov 2013 #97
+1 BuddhaGirl Nov 2013 #117
I think you libodem Nov 2013 #167
Nailed it. nt Old and In the Way Nov 2013 #191
Try to take it a step beyond reading the threads, prism... chervilant Nov 2013 #217
Damn straight. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #229
Agreed LittleBlue Nov 2013 #77
you want to change the definition of violence. bah hahahaha. pathetic. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #80
You need to understand LittleBlue Nov 2013 #82
you need to understand one is intentionally hurting for one or both to get off is STILL seabeyond Nov 2013 #83
But should it be condemned simply because it meets the strict definition of "violence"? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #234
I addressed it directly Prism Nov 2013 #69
no. you did not. the definition of violence is pretty easy to find. that simple. that is the ONLY seabeyond Nov 2013 #71
Why bother. PassingFair Nov 2013 #91
he is a man. does that help? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #93
You're arguing against the definition you provided! Prism Nov 2013 #108
it absolutely is intended to hurt. now, it is done concentually. that pain is wanted. the intent seabeyond Nov 2013 #109
I'm sorry, you don't get to arbitrarily define this Prism Nov 2013 #111
no. no arbitrarily involved. hurt intentionally to inflict pain to gain pleasure. simply. seabeyond Nov 2013 #112
Murdering the English language is a form of violence. Old and In the Way Nov 2013 #195
Yes, if you two haven't previously agreed that he may pressure you to have sex KitSileya Nov 2013 #74
This is why ideology and sex don't mix. Prism Nov 2013 #116
I would put sex in a different category from most any other task done in a relationship. KitSileya Nov 2013 #118
It's amazing how many liberals turn into prudish freepers when the topic turns to sex. Xithras Nov 2013 #140
it's amazing how many when talking about their sex life cannot even mutter the word violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #143
Because that's not how we see it. Xithras Nov 2013 #162
so what? people get off on it. it is still violence. this is fuckin amazing. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #169
Whether it's "violent" is irrelevant. It's the motivations that are important. Xithras Nov 2013 #190
that is the question in the OP. all the rest is irrelevant. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #209
My answer may not have been literal, but my meaning wasn't. Consensual sex is never violent. Xithras Nov 2013 #211
Dude... chervilant Nov 2013 #219
Isn't it ridiculous? sibelian Nov 2013 #156
Hard to define LittleBlue Nov 2013 #56
anything taint related AngryAmish Nov 2013 #58
tainted love... mwrguy Nov 2013 #172
ALL OF THEM!!! Iggo Nov 2013 #73
As my idol Sue Ann Nivens said, "Sex and violence? I didn't realize they... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #85
Any act that simulates rape is violent and should be banned, IMO. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #106
Yup."Pretend" porn violence should be banned.If pretend sex is imagined as real, so is the violence. ancianita Nov 2013 #127
The Google definition for violent: ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #115
So is getting a tattoo violent? backscatter712 Nov 2013 #150
violence toward the body yes and i have even heard academia discuss invasive surgeries as seabeyond Nov 2013 #155
If we use the Google definition, ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #173
That's the trick... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #183
no one.... NO ONE said anyone should go into jail with a consented violent act. NO ONE. seabeyond Nov 2013 #189
A lot of people in the thread about David Cameron's "rape porn" ban supported exactly that. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #194
This? "Praying Mantis eats the head of her mate during sex" FarCenter Nov 2013 #120
Who cannot discern violence or its simulation? Do we have a problem with detecting it in NON-porn? WinkyDink Nov 2013 #129
just about everyone on this thread, lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #132
Heh. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #182
Getting the dog off the bed first jberryhill Nov 2013 #130
Hello children, today's secret word of the day is CONSENT! backscatter712 Nov 2013 #134
anything against someone's will. aside from that it's really not my business La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #135
None of them. If it's violent, it's not sex. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #138
really? whipping leads to sex or part of the act, but not violent? you explain. seabeyond Nov 2013 #144
"Acting" isn't violence either. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #168
when acting you are not really grabbing the hair and yanking, causing pain. if they really do that seabeyond Nov 2013 #171
obviously, it's not YOUR kink, and if you "do not get" it BuddhaGirl Nov 2013 #222
Everything Zen Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #139
I think consent makes the difference. tammywammy Nov 2013 #141
unacceptable violence, acceptable violence. with boxing it is violent. but it is acceptable violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #145
So who draws the line between "acceptable" and "unacceptable"? Someone like Ken Cuccinelli? backscatter712 Nov 2013 #149
wtf? a question was ask on what violent sex is. who the fuck cares what that dude is saying? seabeyond Nov 2013 #151
I bring him up because it's people like him who will be drawing the line. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #159
there is NO line. there is a WORD. violence. what is the definition. what are the violent acts seabeyond Nov 2013 #164
I'm not really sure what you're trying to point out. tammywammy Nov 2013 #199
Exactly. Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #201
anal dynamiting nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #147
*MEEP! MEEP!* Kurovski Jan 2014 #242
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Anal sex? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #177
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I'm well aware. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #181
Agree and well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #187
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More homophobic bull**** LittleBlue Nov 2013 #185
Definitely was exactly that! It was a homophobic bigoted poster count of 3 passing through. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #188
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Oh boy. Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #179
Strangulation sex HockeyMom Nov 2013 #192
death by misadventure i would say. loli phabay Nov 2013 #203
You can choose BainsBane Nov 2013 #208
Maybe I'd know it when I see it. Umm. MyshkinCommaPrince Nov 2013 #210
Any act that causes bruising, pain or bleeding is going too far. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #215
For me that would certainly be the case. In fact, I'm sure I'd stop long before that point. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #238
Anything in which either party does not consent. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #226
One who, seeking happiness, harms, oppresses or kills another being commits violence if flvegan Nov 2013 #235
None. I don't think sex and violence go together. Rex Dec 2013 #241
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