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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
32. And so are you (warning, likely triggers ahead)
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 02:53 PM
Nov 2013

You're right. What two consenting people do with themselves is their business. If a couple get off on rape fantasy with each other, I think that's weird, but, whatever, it's their business.

That's not the issue at hand. We're not talking about a couple's kinks. We're talking about a genre of film. Allow me to give you an example. First I go to the free porn site "motherless" and put "raped" into the search box.

Ah here we go, an eighteen-minute video from a site named "rapesection." On motherless, it's titled "Russian teen pool violation." Oh, my testicles are all a-quiver!

We open with the aforementioned teen, in the aforementioned pool, apparently in her basement or something. A few minutes of this and she gets out to shower off. There's a loud bang, and she looks momentarily concerned, and steps out of the shower to check her surroundings. A young man sneaks down the stairs towards her, grabs her by the hair. While she screams, he yanks her head around, slamming her into the wall a few times. Then he drags her over to the pool, and forces her head into the water. He cokes her, yanks her around more, forces her face back into the water. Then, he forces her cheeks between her teeth with his thumb, and pushes his penis into her mouth while she struggles and fights against him. She doesn't comply, so he hits her, and tries again. More hitting until he finally gets it in there, then thrusts until she chokes. Then he twists her head hard to the side, and delivers a karate chop to her neck while she continues to struggle. Then he twists her arm around between her shoulders. There's some more jaw-wrenching and hitting involved in this guy trying to put his pecker in her mouth. She breaks away from him, running into the shower room, and he follows, knocking the door in. He punches her in the head, making it collide with the tiled wall behind her, then grabs her and drags her out, hitting her on the back as he does, before tossing her into the pool. More hair-yanking, hitting, and jaw-wrenching follows as he again tries to force oral from her. Then he throws her onto the floor, and slaps her repeatedly, before spreading her legs and penetrating her while she screams and fights him. More slapping and head-banging and choking occurs. She hits him in the chest, he responds by delivering a punch to the head. And then, everyone's favorite, anal with pool water as lube while she struggles. This involves slamming her head into a table a few times. He finishes up by ejaculating on her face and throwing her into the pool.

Are they actors? Well, one hopes so - they're Russian, and I dunno what sort of shit goes on over there. The scene is certainly staged, of course, and many of the hits are light stage blows... but not all (the one after she hits him in the chest, in particular, he really knocks the shit out of her). Whatever degree of consent exists in the Russian pornography industry isn't the point (though I suspect it is certainly a point worth discussion.)

The point is that this eighteen minutes of simulated rape is being sold to you and me and whoever else might watch it, as entertainment. It's supposed to be sexy, it's supposed to turn you on. it didn't do it for me, because a woman screaming and struggling as a water-lubed cock is thrust into her anus is sort of the opposite of a turn-on for me, even if I can convince myself she's just acting (and under that condition, I imagine MOST people would be very vocal and physical about their displeasure with that.)

It's not an issue of two people doing something that gets their kink going. It's about an industry selling rape as a form of positive sexuality for the entertainment of mass consumers.

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Your wife sounds like a very smart woman. Scuba Nov 2013 #1
Your wife is indeed very smart. Triana Nov 2013 #2
This is excellent - TBF Nov 2013 #3
something I learned when my children were small Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #4
Your wife is right on lillypaddle Nov 2013 #5
She is a really smart woman... Grey Nov 2013 #6
Love this! ColumbusLib Nov 2013 #7
rape is all about power and control. the same as your wife's post. interesting. but, seabeyond Nov 2013 #8
Your wife needs to post more. n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #9
K&R.... daleanime Nov 2013 #10
So she is an advocate of RAPE PORN then? TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #11
and you are missing her point. Two CONSENTING ADULTS engaged in role play is not the same diabeticman Nov 2013 #14
and bdsm has nothing to do with rape. they have power and control. rape the rapist has the power seabeyond Nov 2013 #17
And so are you (warning, likely triggers ahead) Scootaloo Nov 2013 #32
but... this would not be violent. we have redefined what violent is for porn. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #37
Ok - anyone who gets off on that shit is pretty messed up. That's just sick. smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #51
I'm not missing the point TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #47
I do apologize. It amazes me how some people are just grasping at one point of my wife's rant diabeticman Nov 2013 #48
Exactly TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #54
Who's advocating for regulating adults having consensual sex? kcr Nov 2013 #12
There have been different discussions on DU about trying to criminalize "rape porn" not to mention diabeticman Nov 2013 #16
I know. kcr Nov 2013 #18
Exhibit A, from another thread this morning: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #36
So, you can point to one person that wants to ban porn in general. kcr Nov 2013 #38
"Who's advocating for regulating adults having consensual sex?" LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #39
I think it was pretty straightforward. kcr Nov 2013 #42
Well, we are advancing. It's now "almost" no one. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #45
Well thanks for noting that. kcr Nov 2013 #46
*sigh* OK, lessee what we got here: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #49
There are good points made but where did anyone say MadrasT Nov 2013 #13
Part of this has to do with UK wanting to criminalize "Rape Porn" and not just that thread but all diabeticman Nov 2013 #19
So she's saying "people should be free to make fake rape videos, but they should choose not to"? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #15
What she is saying that people need to be EDUCATED more and and considering we have people diabeticman Nov 2013 #20
not to mention the rape porn that is real that people are getting off on, but hey, lets not even seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
I don't know where "Rape Porn" is real? You are talking about TWO different subjects. People diabeticman Nov 2013 #22
The people speaking out about rape porn gollygee Nov 2013 #23
THan this is a WHOLE category of porn unknown to us or my wife's friends. Because some of the diabeticman Nov 2013 #24
People are throwing out this strawman gollygee Nov 2013 #25
My wife is wondering if people are seeing BDSM pictures and movies and are equating them to diabeticman Nov 2013 #27
No, we're talking about rape porn gollygee Nov 2013 #28
maybe because some parts of SMBD involve "rape fantasies". in the middle of the role play diabeticman Nov 2013 #30
If it says "Contains real rape scenes" on the packaging gollygee Nov 2013 #31
Oh! My wife will double check with her but she doubts they have ever encountered that. diabeticman Nov 2013 #33
In 2007, two 8-year olds and a 9-year old was accused of raping a girl. KitSileya Nov 2013 #40
Well said, gollygee. historylovr Nov 2013 #44
The point of the videos is that the intended viewer thinks that it is real muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #26
what is normal porn? Some people find it unacceptable to see two girls doing sexual acts diabeticman Nov 2013 #29
Rape porn is something that looks like a violent crime muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #34
This is something I will show my wife. I will let her answer that. diabeticman Nov 2013 #35
As I see it - and have outlined on DU before -, Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #41
Liberalism has its blind spots. truedelphi Nov 2013 #53
Power Over, or G_j Nov 2013 #43
Please thank your wife for me. woo me with science Nov 2013 #50
Sounds like you married a very insightful intelligent woman IronLionZion Nov 2013 #52
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