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In reply to the discussion: My wife thoughts on the whole Rape culture and porn debates she has seen on DU [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You're right. What two consenting people do with themselves is their business. If a couple get off on rape fantasy with each other, I think that's weird, but, whatever, it's their business.
That's not the issue at hand. We're not talking about a couple's kinks. We're talking about a genre of film. Allow me to give you an example. First I go to the free porn site "motherless" and put "raped" into the search box.
Ah here we go, an eighteen-minute video from a site named "rapesection." On motherless, it's titled "Russian teen pool violation." Oh, my testicles are all a-quiver!
We open with the aforementioned teen, in the aforementioned pool, apparently in her basement or something. A few minutes of this and she gets out to shower off. There's a loud bang, and she looks momentarily concerned, and steps out of the shower to check her surroundings. A young man sneaks down the stairs towards her, grabs her by the hair. While she screams, he yanks her head around, slamming her into the wall a few times. Then he drags her over to the pool, and forces her head into the water. He cokes her, yanks her around more, forces her face back into the water. Then, he forces her cheeks between her teeth with his thumb, and pushes his penis into her mouth while she struggles and fights against him. She doesn't comply, so he hits her, and tries again. More hitting until he finally gets it in there, then thrusts until she chokes. Then he twists her head hard to the side, and delivers a karate chop to her neck while she continues to struggle. Then he twists her arm around between her shoulders. There's some more jaw-wrenching and hitting involved in this guy trying to put his pecker in her mouth. She breaks away from him, running into the shower room, and he follows, knocking the door in. He punches her in the head, making it collide with the tiled wall behind her, then grabs her and drags her out, hitting her on the back as he does, before tossing her into the pool. More hair-yanking, hitting, and jaw-wrenching follows as he again tries to force oral from her. Then he throws her onto the floor, and slaps her repeatedly, before spreading her legs and penetrating her while she screams and fights him. More slapping and head-banging and choking occurs. She hits him in the chest, he responds by delivering a punch to the head. And then, everyone's favorite, anal with pool water as lube while she struggles. This involves slamming her head into a table a few times. He finishes up by ejaculating on her face and throwing her into the pool.
Are they actors? Well, one hopes so - they're Russian, and I dunno what sort of shit goes on over there. The scene is certainly staged, of course, and many of the hits are light stage blows... but not all (the one after she hits him in the chest, in particular, he really knocks the shit out of her). Whatever degree of consent exists in the Russian pornography industry isn't the point (though I suspect it is certainly a point worth discussion.)
The point is that this eighteen minutes of simulated rape is being sold to you and me and whoever else might watch it, as entertainment. It's supposed to be sexy, it's supposed to turn you on. it didn't do it for me, because a woman screaming and struggling as a water-lubed cock is thrust into her anus is sort of the opposite of a turn-on for me, even if I can convince myself she's just acting (and under that condition, I imagine MOST people would be very vocal and physical about their displeasure with that.)
It's not an issue of two people doing something that gets their kink going. It's about an industry selling rape as a form of positive sexuality for the entertainment of mass consumers.