My wife thoughts on the whole Rape culture and porn debates she has seen on DU

[LadyHawkAZ]

49. *sigh* OK, lessee what we got here:

We can start with the one I already posted:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024096085#post41

I really don't mind saying I think porn should be illegal.

You are correct about doing a search for porn. It is clear what type of porn is driving the industry. I trust that they know their customers, and the images and words they display on their home-pages shows a clear direction towards pain and violence.

I think that all porn or sex trade business, where some form of trade is made for work that requires any type of penetration, should be outlawed. I also think the laws of a state should govern the actions of fetish porn.

This is an open, no-bullshit call for a ban on consenting adult behavior.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024073698#op
In the recent long thread in DU about rape porn I was disillusioned to conclude that a whole lot of DU members somehow think it is the liberal position to safeguard the rights of people for whom watching women being tortured is a turn on.

I personally associate such hatred of women to be a republican problem. But now I am unsure entirely.

Why would it be a liberal position to defend torture of women for sexual gratification?

I have no idea what people mean when they say it is only simulated, so it does not count. Or it is between consenting adults....who consents to being tortured?

This is a call for a ban on consenting adult behavior, i.e. BDSM, and by someone who admitted to having no actual clue about the subject.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024073698#post17
Rape is my business

Believe it or not, women are human beings with rights too.
Yes, there is gay porn--directed at male audiences. The vast majority of the porn is heterosexual. Pretending there is anything close to gender parity is a willful distortion.
That you think it is only about your business suggests women who are the objects of porn have no rights, that the women who are then raped as a result of the prevalence of that porn--as countless studies have shown--have no rights. Our rights to be free from violence matters to us, even if you do not care who is enslaved, beaten or killed to satisfy the rape fantasists desires.

The subthread was about BDSM fetishes, NOT rape porn. The author's equating the BDSM fetish with rape, abuse and murder- all of which are illegal and also illegal to film or distribute- also makes it a de facto call for a ban on consenting adult behavior. There are many, many posts in a similar vein. This is what I mean by a huge gray area, where one person's consensual fetish is another person's "rape porn".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024073698#post382
Because people don't truly understand what porn is all about.

They hide behind the phony civil liberties that thinks that exploitation of others is okay. They don't even know what "consent" entails.

Financial pressures to work in porn (or prostitution, for that matter) is NOT "consent."

Completely redefining consensual acts with non-consensual and illegal ones (sex - consent = rape, illegal to perform, film or distribute, otherwise known as a "ban&quot and inventing whole new definitions of consent to do so.

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Is that enough, or do you want me to reproduce whole swaths of two very long threads? Yes, people are calling for bans on consensual adult behavior; this is not new to DU and happens every time one of these sex or sexuality issues come up. There really are people out there, and in here, who really do think they ought to be able to set the legal and moral standards of acceptability in sexual expression, at least where women's vaginas are concerned.

I completely support not only bans but prosecutions on possession and distribution of videos showing actual rapes: so does every single person on this board, porn supporter or not. I don't support broad-brush bans on porn or only-slightly-narrower bans on consensual fetish porn. In spite of the repeated attempts to conflate all porn or fetish porn with rape, they are not the same thing.

How about you?