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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Actually, I can. Or at least, they can be. This smells very strongly to me of trying to ban (no, you didn't say it but there's a clear undertone of "ban this filth", let's not play games) sexual tastes that you find icky. There are people who enjoy being degraded, humiliated, called names and so on. I know that because I'm one of them. There are people who enjoy inserting objects into their anus, who enjoy anal sex. You're making the assumption that because you find this or that act repulsive, everyone would and obviously, these poor girls couldn't be doing it voluntarily but here's the thing, human sexuality is really, really weird. People have all kinds of fetishes. Lots of people are into crazy stuff, lots of people are sexual submissives who enjoy being dominated. Take a look around one of the kink dating sites (Alt.com being the biggest) and you'll find tens of thousands of them around the country and probably several hundred in your area. You're not into this stuff, fine. Nothing says you should be. But you don't get to define what is acceptable sexual tastes for anyone else which is what you're doing now. You're simply assuming that the girls couldn't possibly be into this stuff because you're not into it.
I've known porn girls. Some of them are screwed up, that's true and if you're wanting to get some more support for those girls, I'm right there with you. But most of them are no more screwed up than you or I and yes, some of them are into this stuff. My SO was a phone sex operator and you would not believe what some people are into. Or go looking on any porn tube style site and you'll find a shitload of amateur porn where teh girls are filming and exhibiting themselves for their own kicks.
And if someone's consenting, it's not rape. No matter how extreme or distasteful you find the sex act. Only rape is rape. That's another misconception about the porn business; that the porn business needs to rape the girls. The fact is, there are a dozen girls lining up at the door to do porn, there's no need to coerce a girl into doing porn when there's a dozen waiting who'll happily do the same job without the fuss (Noteable exception: rape porn. That probably does need to be banned due to the difficulty of telling teh difference between a girl pretending to be raped and a girl actually being raped).
Now, I'm not saying that the porn business is all happy or risk-free. It certainly needs some proper regulation. Rubbers need to be mandated, standards need to be enforced and pretty much all the performers are drastically underpaid. And yes, rape porn probably needs to be banned unless we can come up with a foolproof way of ensuring it's only simulated. But, assuming consenting adults, you don't get to dictate what people do with their sexuality just because you find it distasteful.