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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)No, you didn't say the word "ban" but the tone was clear and I'm far from the only person who saw it.
Secondly, you're again infantilizing the girls by assuming that they couldn't be choosing to do this for their own reasons. You're saying that no-one should like rough sex or violent sex but people do. Some people are wired to be doms, some are wired to be subs. Some women enjoy being spanked, whipped or sexually tortured. Some women like to sexually torture others. Read some research about the intersection of human psychology and sexuality (which the media persists, to my irritation, in calling "sexology"
and you'll find that even the most extreme sexual tastes are held by a surprising amount of people. I can suggest some reading if you like (no, not porn, academic studies). You're saying they shouldn't be expressing their sexuality that way because you find it icky. You're trying to make sexuality simple: violence, bad; porn, bad; missionary position for procreation, good. But real people aren't that simple, sexuality isn't that simple.
Thirdly, you're assuming that violent fantasies (and porn is about selling a fantasy, I write the bloody stuff) translate to real-life violence. But the evidence on that is far from clear-cut. In kids, sure. Kids will imitate violence if they see it, Bandura's bobo dolls proved that. But in adults, the evidence is far from conclusive and there's a certain amount of evidence (which, again, is far from conclusive) that it goes the other way; that viewing this stuff actually acts as a "safety valve". And if you think about it, making that assumption is a really unsafe bet. Think of all the violence we see in movies all the time. Most of western Europe sees the same movies but most of western Europe isn't swimming in blood. Again, people are more complex than this. The adult mind is fully capable of separating the fantasy it sees on screen from the real world it sees through it's window.
I've been studying psychology formally for five years now. I've been studying the intersection of sexuality and psychology informally for much longer. I'll finish up my BSc sometime next year (I'm doing it over six years due to ill-health), do my masters in Forensic Psychology and, assuming I can secure financing, I'll then be doing my doctorate. And here is the most important thing I've learned: People are much more complex than we think. What we would think were clear, "if this, then this" motivations are never, ever that simple