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In reply to the discussion: Why Are American Doctors Paid So Damn Much? [View all]mainer
(12,560 posts)97. Medical school enrollment figures -- up 30%
First-year medical school enrollment in 2017-2018 is projected to reach 21,434a 30 percent increase from 20022003. The 30 percent increase matches exactly the 2015 target recommended by the AAMC in 2006. Of the projected growth from 20022017, 62 percent will be at the 125 medical schools that were accredited as of 2002. New schools since 2002 will provide 31 percent of the growth, and the balance (7 percent) is expected to come from schools that are currently in LCME applicant-school standing.
Survey results show that the adequacy of clinical training opportunities for students may pose a challenge for medical schools. Seventy-eight percent of respondents expressed concern about the number of clinical training sites for students, 82 percent about the supply of qualified primary care preceptors, and 67 percent about the supply of qualified specialty preceptors.
Medical schools also reported concern about enrollment growth outpacing growth in graduate medical education (GME). Thirty-three percent of schools reported this as a major concern in their state and 42 percent as a major concern at the national level. However, only 14 percent of schools reported major concern about their incoming students ability to find residency positions of their choice after medical school.
Seventy-six percent of schools said they had either established or recently implemented at least one initiative to increase student interest in primary care specialties. These efforts included changes in curriculum, extracurricular opportunities, expanded faculty resources and training, and changes in admissions criteria.
Full report from the AAMC here -- and their efforts to increase #doctors. The problem is cost, #preceptors, and post-graduate training.
https://members.aamc.org/eweb/upload/12-237%20EnrollmSurvey2013.pdf
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I was talking to someone who was a veterinarian yesterday, and that sparked me to look up
penultimate
Nov 2013
#46
Most docs could have their loans forgiven if they were willing to practice in rural or inner city
Hoyt
Nov 2013
#53
Lowest paid: "With a base pay offer of $189,000 a year, on average, family practitioners,
Chathamization
Nov 2013
#72
That's exactly what the Heritage Foundation and the Koch roaches wants you to think.
Initech
Nov 2013
#81
If you have actual data, feel free to show it. The average public school teachers salary is $56,069
Chathamization
Nov 2013
#85
Hubby is a psychiatrist in practice for almost 40 years. He's never made $189,000.
mnhtnbb
Nov 2013
#157
No, it is a matter of your deliberately missing the point of the argument.
woo me with science
Nov 2013
#100
The insurance and big hospital corporation executives thank you for your concern...
hunter
Nov 2013
#13
You have to blame the Greedy Higher Education System and the high costs of doing business
AZ Progressive
Nov 2013
#25
and most doctors after graduating are are residency, etc, are at least 200k in debt to boot
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#30
A lot of doctors are in major debt when they get out of medical schools. Clinic an d hospital
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#29
Let's see, she invests $360K to get salary over $200K per year for 30 years -- not a bad investment.
Hoyt
Nov 2013
#54
Matt hits it on the head. Limit the supply, create the demand, which in turn causes
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#69
Nowadays, a lot of family docs do not do hospital work, limiting a lot of oncall issues.
Hoyt
Nov 2013
#77
And the majority of physicians were in favor of a national health care system...
slipslidingaway
Nov 2013
#90
Read the history of the AMA and you will understand why Dr's get paid so much ...
MindMover
Nov 2013
#102
Whatever dude, read about its goals ... to promote and further physicians incomes ............
MindMover
Nov 2013
#123
If working to their full ability is too hard for them, they are in the wrong line of work.
MADem
Nov 2013
#132
Easing the educational bottleneck will help, as will easing the enormous cost of medical school
Warpy
Nov 2013
#129
True. Very true. Also pushing meds with dubious value--like statins--on everyone.
mnhtnbb
Nov 2013
#156
It's almost a closed system in the US. Just look at the Med school system, who is in charge, who
kelliekat44
Nov 2013
#142
first of all doctors are not usually "paid", they earn as part of a LLC or sub-chapter S corporation
beachbum bob
Nov 2013
#160