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jeff47

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36. I'd expect the opposite
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 11:53 AM
Nov 2013

This map reduces the over-representation of the rural areas in the senate - Wyoming doesn't get two votes despite it's low population, for example.

And the political influence of the metropolises extend far beyond the political boundaries - The area surrounding Los Angeles would still mostly be blue, but now would have their own senators instead of sharing California's 2. And San Francisco would have an additional 2 instead of sharing California's two. And the areas surrounding San Francisco would have 2 Democratic senators instead of sharing California's 2. New York city would have 4 senators instead of 2, and the surrounding states would lean blue.

At the level of the states, I foresee ruined infrastructures as the nonurban states fight tolls and user fees, that would make high capacity urban transportation systems possible, as barriers to interstate trade.

Tolls and user fees are not the only way to fund such projects. Nor do such projects have to exist in only one state - DC's metro passes through two states and one pseudo-state.

In principle one of the things that's good about the senate is that senators represent all their constituents.

Except that Wyoming's 576,412 people have the same representation as California's 38,041,430. Not exactly fair to give Wyoming residents 66 times the power of California residents.

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Cool. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #1
Looks like I'll be in Tule sakabatou Nov 2013 #2
What if the population shifts dem in texas Nov 2013 #3
Hmmm.... Redraw the lines every X number of years? Like once a century, or something? nt Electric Monk Nov 2013 #4
Often mass migration follows where the jobs are located. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #13
The problem is that we have a finite "magic number" of 435. SoCalDem Nov 2013 #29
There is no such place as the Alaskan Peninsula. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #5
I think the entire thing JackInGreen Nov 2013 #7
That kind of makes sense. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #10
You would indeed, and Olympia JackInGreen Nov 2013 #12
Seattle good, Spokane bad.:) Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #17
Oh, it's not 'Bad' per se JackInGreen Nov 2013 #41
I do like the idea of dividing the country into electoral/congressional districts nyquil_man Nov 2013 #6
Why not just do away with electoral votes altogether? Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #8
Then what's the point of doing the map? nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #15
Perhaps to have each Senator and each Representative Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #16
Or perhaps the point is "Electoral College Reform," which is the title of the piece. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #34
From the creator of the map: Nine Nov 2013 #25
I'm a map nerd too. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #35
Interesting, but..... DeSwiss Nov 2013 #9
We are here Vox Moi Nov 2013 #28
"Big Thicket" LOL AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #11
Hey! HEY! don't you go making fun of my Big Thicket! nt Javaman Nov 2013 #22
At least Oregon would merge with Hawaii davidpdx Nov 2013 #14
I dwell in Good Herb diane in sf Nov 2013 #18
That would certainly make the Senate more democratic (small d). Laelth Nov 2013 #19
why are we changing maps? MissMillie Nov 2013 #20
Wouldn't shoving big cities into units that dilute their political influence HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #21
My first thought was that . . . JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #26
I'd expect the opposite jeff47 Nov 2013 #36
at a national level the south and texas pick up Wyomings diminished representation. HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #39
No, they don't. Texas and the South have fewer people. jeff47 Nov 2013 #40
I like the new names of the states. Brickbat Nov 2013 #23
it makes for an interesting map d_r Nov 2013 #24
Interesting, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #27
Well I see I'm still in Houston - TBF Nov 2013 #30
Rainier? No. Aristus Nov 2013 #31
Minnesota doesn't look much different, oddly enough. MineralMan Nov 2013 #32
Savannah and Charleston in the same state? Never. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #33
Afternoon kick for this little thought experiment. nt Electric Monk Nov 2013 #37
Being in the same state as Portland, Arcata, and Hawaii XemaSab Nov 2013 #38
I've stated before... krispos42 Nov 2013 #42
So this nation has several billion dollars just laying around Skidmore Nov 2013 #43
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