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Gormy Cuss

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Reply to antigone382 (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 12:21 PM

Nov 2013

And there are too many people hear who misunderstand the usefulness of identifying correlations.

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Having Daughters Increases Parents’ Identification with the Republican Party [View all] The Straight Story Nov 2013 OP

NEXT: Study Examines Potential Evolutionary Role of GOP in Human Survival, Reproduction jsr Nov 2013 #1

Bullshit liberal N proud Nov 2013 #2

Do you understand scientific methods? SpartanDem Nov 2013 #28

No, that is the logic level the right wing wants us to use liberal N proud Nov 2013 #38

This study is not telling you or anyone else that you fit into any category. antigone382 Nov 2013 #43

a bit. I'd be interested in what other variables were assigned value cali Nov 2013 #85

Oh goodness yeoman6987 Nov 2013 #31

You are right it's bullshit. An other waste of time study. lumpy Nov 2013 #52

Yeah, screw social science. Let's just cut funding for it altogether. antigone382 Nov 2013 #66

Bullshit. I have two girls, one boy, girl came first. all grown CBGLuthier Nov 2013 #3

Double bullshit - two daughters OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #11

This, right here. Control-Z Nov 2013 #22

What evidence do you have that these two researchers are "fooling" anyone? antigone382 Nov 2013 #70

Always been a Dem, always considered myself a feminist xmas74 Nov 2013 #36

this is my thinking, also left is right Nov 2013 #74

Two daughters and one son Gothmog Nov 2013 #60

That makes no sense. Myrina Nov 2013 #4

+1 treestar Nov 2013 #79

Bullshit! B Calm Nov 2013 #5

Deeply ingrained sexism in this culture alarimer Nov 2013 #6

I would think it would be just the opposite! B Calm Nov 2013 #7

Reason for this yeoman6987 Nov 2013 #33

Studies pulled out of ass more likely to favor Republicans. (nt) scarletwoman Nov 2013 #8

The methodology of the study is clearly explained and it doesn't *favor* anyone. antigone382 Nov 2013 #68

My apologies for going for the quick laugh. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #78

I am 1 of 6 daughters, I myself have 3 daughters Sheepshank Nov 2013 #9

I am dubious. sinkingfeeling Nov 2013 #10

Like most republican "studies" WRONG Robyn66 Nov 2013 #12

This is not a "Republican" study. It was conducted by researchers from NYU and University of Kansas. antigone382 Nov 2013 #20

I am glad someone finally noticed this. In fact, tomg Nov 2013 #56

NONE of the families I know with daughters are Repukes. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #13

wow, data based on some TWENTY-YEAR-OLD study niyad Nov 2013 #14

Interesting - thanks for the analysis! Kber Nov 2013 #16

WRONG eissa Nov 2013 #15

Don't know that I became more liberal rurallib Nov 2013 #62

Um... WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #17

It's clear from this thread that a lot of people don't really get quantitative social research. antigone382 Nov 2013 #18

+1 renie408 Nov 2013 #21

There is also the correlation-vs-causation thing to keep in mind. arcane1 Nov 2013 #27

+1 Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #35

+1 It's also disappointing to see people here try to dispute surveys with "Me or people I know..." stevenleser Nov 2013 #65

Absolutely. Anecdotes can *illustrate* evidence. They are not in themselves evidence. n/t antigone382 Nov 2013 #67

Wait, wasn't there a study that said the opposite? mainer Nov 2013 #19

Yes, it's very common in most scientific research for studies to have conflicting results. antigone382 Nov 2013 #26

They found a correlation. Cannot conclude causation without a lot more research. yellowcanine Nov 2013 #37

Those are all good questions, but I don't think the study authors are concluding causation. antigone382 Nov 2013 #44

Authors not concluding causation? Well they did speculate about it, for sure yellowcanine Nov 2013 #55

Well, they took that data set because it was all that was available. antigone382 Nov 2013 #63

"It is pretty standard......" not really. Not without a lot of caveats. I fault the journal also. yellowcanine Nov 2013 #71

After reading the article, I have no clue why they would even publish this crap. Xyzse Nov 2013 #23

Just great. Something else we can blame on women. Glassunion Nov 2013 #24

Here's a study that shows having daughters makes you more leftwing mainer Nov 2013 #25

Ummm...I must be an anomaly. Single mom, three daughters, DEMOCRAT. Avalux Nov 2013 #29

They are not saying it is true for all people. antigone382 Nov 2013 #49

Even the title of the OP gives it away rock Nov 2013 #30

That's the title of the news article covering a scientific study. antigone382 Nov 2013 #46

Even so they should not state it as a cause and effect rock Nov 2013 #50

Someone needs a lesson in "Correlation without Causation" yellowcanine Nov 2013 #32

+1 nt TBF Nov 2013 #61

My Dad had 2 daughters and he hated republicans calling them dirty stinking lousy republicans kimbutgar Nov 2013 #34

Another mold in which I don't fit. City Lights Nov 2013 #39

Teh stupid. It burns! KamaAina Nov 2013 #40

I'd be much more interested in seeing a comparison of 20 year old results... Sheepshank Nov 2013 #41

Whoa...that's interesting. Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #42

Exception here. Vattel Nov 2013 #45

20 years ago the Democratic party was exboyfil Nov 2013 #47

horse manure. my daughter made me a more rabid liberal. spanone Nov 2013 #48

What's the correlation between unpopular study results and indignation? bluedigger Nov 2013 #51

HAHA! Very funny!! (nt) Inkfreak Nov 2013 #87

The lack of scientific literacy in this thread is astounding. Kurska Nov 2013 #53

Study data was from 20 years ago. Since then the Republican Party kiranon Nov 2013 #58

See that is a legitimate methodological complain Kurska Nov 2013 #59

Actually it was feudal 20 years ago, it's just easier to see it's feudal now Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #83

+1 antigone382 Nov 2013 #64

I'd say it's just more of a quick emotional response than anything The2ndWheel Nov 2013 #69

Or maybe republican men are more likely to father girls? Quantess Nov 2013 #54

Crap. I have two daughters and don't vote GOP. riqster Nov 2013 #57

I guess this makes sense, Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #72

"Authors say parents prefer socially conservative poltiics when they have daughters" davidn3600 Nov 2013 #73

A lot probably depends on their existing views of gender roles LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #75

Some of the reactions to this op remind me of tomg Nov 2013 #76

My daughter has two daughters Thirties Child Nov 2013 #77

Oh, please... Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #80

This thread is useless without... Barack_America Nov 2013 #81

My husband and I have raised a very free spirited, strong willed, outspoken bisexual daughter. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #82

I have two daughters peabody Nov 2013 #84

Perhaps it runs "if we don't grow up, they won't either" quaker bill Nov 2013 #86