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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
189. no one.... NO ONE said anyone should go into jail with a consented violent act. NO ONE.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 02:21 PM
Nov 2013

the definition of violence does not draw a legal or illegal lline. anywhere. this is totally fabricated in your own mind. totally fabricated. defined? that means you are making this shit up

non consensual, that its for me, anything else goes if there is consent loli phabay Nov 2013 #1
another vote for this one. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #90
I'm with you. n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #114
Agree! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #125
I agree as well Throckmorton Nov 2013 #137
Same n/t maddezmom Nov 2013 #205
I think so too. shenmue Nov 2013 #206
On a practical level, that has to be it. Otherwise you really are butting into people's bedrooms. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #225
on a counterpoint, if people want to film what they do in their bedroom and share with others loli phabay Nov 2013 #230
I'm with you there, pretty much. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #236
the amateur stuff is getting better, now with interaction on cams etc loli phabay Nov 2013 #237
I usually apply that term to the non-consensual ones... MrScorpio Nov 2013 #2
Things that cause more pain than pleasure. Of course, that's very subjective. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #3
Some people find pain pleasurable... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #133
Masochist says "Beat me!" Sadist says, "No!" Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #152
Non-consensual acts, but also Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #4
Does that include spanking? Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #6
I don't think I could go for slapping Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #122
Pedophilia, rape, humiliation, bdsm, etc. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #5
So, when my ex-gf would... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #67
"that was violence on par with rape" that would fit the definition of violent if intent was to hurt seabeyond Nov 2013 #72
The pain is the point of getting bitten or smacked... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #75
no. i did not say that. intent to hurt, then violent. consent or not, doesnt matter. and no seabeyond Nov 2013 #76
So wait... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #78
i do not get why the definition of violence is so hard. intentional hit in face = violence. violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #79
So, even if I want it... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #84
who said you could not have it. if you want violence inflicted on you, go at it haus. STILL seabeyond Nov 2013 #86
because not everyone has the same concept of what is violence. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #92
hey. so we throw away the dictionary cause we have to self define in order to do something? really? seabeyond Nov 2013 #94
let's not fight about word definitions. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #98
because we choose to blur the definition of words so we can easily swallow something. rape, violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #99
+1000. polly7 Nov 2013 #100
again, thank you for the back up reinforcing my point. of course violence includes and goes seabeyond Nov 2013 #101
You were accusing the poster of 'self-defining'. polly7 Nov 2013 #102
physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. seabeyond Nov 2013 #103
thanks! Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #104
You're welcome! I just thought you made a great point. nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #107
4 to 10 time a week?! Locrian Nov 2013 #126
I had a different smiley in mind... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #136
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #200
Who the fuck are you to say "Gay porn is naturally violent"? William769 Nov 2013 #202
Who the fuck is anyone to say some biting or a kickass spanking is unnatural? bobclark86 Nov 2013 #207
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #212
What does 'we've seen studies come up' mean? What 'studies'? Where? Did they 'come up' or Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #7
Anything involving sheep dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #8
rofl, thats baaaaaaaad. loli phabay Nov 2013 #10
Sounds like the old Baaaaaaaaasil Australian joke. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #12
ewe should be ashamed of yourself name not needed Nov 2013 #105
Anything past NO! liberal N proud Nov 2013 #9
Worst yet, anything past a safe word. nt MrScorpio Nov 2013 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #11
Hmmm....holding the door to the bedroom open for someone might be bad The Straight Story Nov 2013 #13
That's a very interesting article. KitSileya Nov 2013 #17
Tactics themselves say loads daybranch Nov 2013 #18
so, alone in a room with a man, pressuring her, the more she says no, the more pressure, until.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
this is sexual violence. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #95
Are you seriously saying that a drunk woman can't be raped? KitSileya Nov 2013 #23
I think what you are describing is a predatory asshole. You might be right that someone can be a el_bryanto Nov 2013 #26
It may not be rape according to the law books, KitSileya Nov 2013 #28
I don't disagree with you - I think trying to define the exact border between rape and non-rape el_bryanto Nov 2013 #60
+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #227
Your post appears to be in support of sexual predation .... etherealtruth Nov 2013 #29
Not according to a DU jury (gag!) KitSileya Nov 2013 #33
Amazing etherealtruth Nov 2013 #35
DU has become a very hostile place for women. KitSileya Nov 2013 #38
Unfortunately this is something many on this board have noticed etherealtruth Nov 2013 #49
I did vote to leave it alone el_bryanto Nov 2013 #57
And I think it should be hidden. KitSileya Nov 2013 #61
There are different types of abuse. Violence is the imposition of one's will upon another. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #96
Copy and paste in case of deletion. KitSileya Nov 2013 #119
You are incorrect, and chervilant Nov 2013 #128
non consensual only. bigwillq Nov 2013 #14
for many here Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #121
Why this sudden zeal on DU to get others to accept violence as acceptable sexual expression? Skidmore Nov 2013 #15
^^This^^ hlthe2b Nov 2013 #20
yes. this. thank you. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #22
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #27
There's something tricky about this issue el_bryanto Nov 2013 #30
we also oppose the abuse of the lack of voice. with this one issue, we throw them under the bus seabeyond Nov 2013 #36
That is an interesting statement el_bryanto Nov 2013 #42
you and others want to shut this conversation down with religion/morally wrong. that is not where seabeyond Nov 2013 #44
I don't want to shut down any conversation - and I apologize if I give off that aura el_bryanto Nov 2013 #46
in ALL my life, my line is never to purposely hurt another. i figure i am pretty safe seabeyond Nov 2013 #50
That's a good line; makes sense to me. el_bryanto Nov 2013 #53
Actually, the level of sexism and misogyny on this site chervilant Nov 2013 #142
That's because it's a first amendment issue. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #148
Oh, yes, of a certainty... chervilant Nov 2013 #214
Enslavement is illegal. Fiction is not. ntt rrneck Nov 2013 #216
Wow... chervilant Nov 2013 #218
You're welcome. rrneck Nov 2013 #220
So, chervilant Nov 2013 #221
I'm interested in freedom of expression rrneck Nov 2013 #223
And I yours. nt chervilant Nov 2013 #224
So adults who deliberately and willfully engage in activites like .. MicaelS Nov 2013 #110
somehow I think Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #123
except someone in the thread already put that up... and i stated yes, that would be violence. seabeyond Nov 2013 #131
A very good question... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #153
does the definition of violence = illegal? do you see all violence as criminal behavior? seabeyond Nov 2013 #157
That seems to be where you draw the line. nt backscatter712 Nov 2013 #160
you are wrong. ONE post, where anywhere i have even kinda suggested. you make up bogus fuckin seabeyond Nov 2013 #161
Here in this thread... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #163
it is a definition of the WORD violence. wtf? seabeyond Nov 2013 #165
Something to think about... rrneck Nov 2013 #193
bullshit. they are absolutely redefining violence. the basis is they do not want seabeyond Nov 2013 #197
What definition are they attempting to change it to? nt rrneck Nov 2013 #213
do you THINK when i say academia describes invasive surgery as violent on the body i am seabeyond Nov 2013 #184
"People consenting to X have issues" backscatter712 Nov 2013 #146
And how did you get all that from "they have issues"? Seems an enormous leap... n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #228
If you don't understand it, you have no business having an opinion about it. sibelian Nov 2013 #154
so, porn has freedom of speech but a poster on a discussion board does not? seabeyond Nov 2013 #158
Yeah, tell me about it. Skidmore Nov 2013 #180
if its not your kink dont do it, but what you describe is part of a lot of peoples sex life loli phabay Nov 2013 #231
I guess for some it really is pleasurable. And I don't feel it's my place to judge. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #232
Anything past NO. HappyMe Nov 2013 #16
The comments on article The Straight Story quoted were illuminating KitSileya Nov 2013 #19
so much in your post but addressing this. can always call them prudes, sex negative, shame them.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #25
^^All that - right on the money^^ nt xulamaude Nov 2013 #88
I don't know where you live, but... Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #166
If indeed the numbers are down, that is wonderful. KitSileya Nov 2013 #204
George W. Bush is the classic Republican gulliver Nov 2013 #24
Anything not agreed to by partner and imposed on them on point Nov 2013 #31
Certainly criminal acts are violent anyway gollygee Nov 2013 #32
Something one of the parties doesn't want get the red out Nov 2013 #34
if a woman says... hit me. and a man hits her. that is not violent? seabeyond Nov 2013 #39
Sorry to offend get the red out Nov 2013 #43
sticking a huge dick in the mouth and aggressively pumping causing massive pain. is that violent? seabeyond Nov 2013 #45
I'm sorry get the red out Nov 2013 #113
Welcome to her world. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #170
what a prude. you guys can defend this shit 'til cows come home, but cant say it outloud? lmFAO seabeyond Nov 2013 #175
I understand you. And it's why I give these threads a wide berth. I'm not down on Sea, but there is freshwest Nov 2013 #239
Your good, that poster is out of control. Agschmid Dec 2013 #240
Wow. Who needs internet rape porn when we've got posters like this? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #174
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #186
Sure it's "violent" in the strictest sense of aggressive behavior. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #233
Any that don't include complete, enthusiastic consent by both parties. MineralMan Nov 2013 #37
definition of violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #40
Interesting rrneck Nov 2013 #64
it took me a while to really get people thought the definition was CONSENT. seabeyond Nov 2013 #65
It's an important distinction. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #66
rape is one form of violence, but not the only one BainsBane Nov 2013 #41
physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something seabeyond Nov 2013 #47
Cheating FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #48
Something can be both violent and consensual gollygee Nov 2013 #51
many seems to be clueless, amazingly. only with sex acts. ask what consititute violence in films seabeyond Nov 2013 #54
Anything your partner doesn't agree to. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #52
Suddenly everyone's all fuzzy about consent and choice Prism Nov 2013 #55
suddenly everyone is all fuzzy on the definition of violence, simply because it is seabeyond Nov 2013 #59
When spanking is "violence" Prism Nov 2013 #62
from the very start of the post. you ignore what i posted to you and fabricate an argument seabeyond Nov 2013 #63
Again we see people inventing arguments to hoist on to feminists BainsBane Nov 2013 #68
I read the threads! Prism Nov 2013 #70
Finally someone said it out loud... truebrit71 Nov 2013 #81
Well damn LittleBlue Nov 2013 #87
ya. giving definition of violence is absolutely sexually negative. or honest anyway. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #89
Uh oh. HappyMe Nov 2013 #97
+1 BuddhaGirl Nov 2013 #117
I think you libodem Nov 2013 #167
Nailed it. nt Old and In the Way Nov 2013 #191
Try to take it a step beyond reading the threads, prism... chervilant Nov 2013 #217
Damn straight. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #229
Agreed LittleBlue Nov 2013 #77
you want to change the definition of violence. bah hahahaha. pathetic. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #80
You need to understand LittleBlue Nov 2013 #82
you need to understand one is intentionally hurting for one or both to get off is STILL seabeyond Nov 2013 #83
But should it be condemned simply because it meets the strict definition of "violence"? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #234
I addressed it directly Prism Nov 2013 #69
no. you did not. the definition of violence is pretty easy to find. that simple. that is the ONLY seabeyond Nov 2013 #71
Why bother. PassingFair Nov 2013 #91
he is a man. does that help? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #93
You're arguing against the definition you provided! Prism Nov 2013 #108
it absolutely is intended to hurt. now, it is done concentually. that pain is wanted. the intent seabeyond Nov 2013 #109
I'm sorry, you don't get to arbitrarily define this Prism Nov 2013 #111
no. no arbitrarily involved. hurt intentionally to inflict pain to gain pleasure. simply. seabeyond Nov 2013 #112
Murdering the English language is a form of violence. Old and In the Way Nov 2013 #195
Yes, if you two haven't previously agreed that he may pressure you to have sex KitSileya Nov 2013 #74
This is why ideology and sex don't mix. Prism Nov 2013 #116
I would put sex in a different category from most any other task done in a relationship. KitSileya Nov 2013 #118
It's amazing how many liberals turn into prudish freepers when the topic turns to sex. Xithras Nov 2013 #140
it's amazing how many when talking about their sex life cannot even mutter the word violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #143
Because that's not how we see it. Xithras Nov 2013 #162
so what? people get off on it. it is still violence. this is fuckin amazing. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #169
Whether it's "violent" is irrelevant. It's the motivations that are important. Xithras Nov 2013 #190
that is the question in the OP. all the rest is irrelevant. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #209
My answer may not have been literal, but my meaning wasn't. Consensual sex is never violent. Xithras Nov 2013 #211
Dude... chervilant Nov 2013 #219
Isn't it ridiculous? sibelian Nov 2013 #156
Hard to define LittleBlue Nov 2013 #56
anything taint related AngryAmish Nov 2013 #58
tainted love... mwrguy Nov 2013 #172
ALL OF THEM!!! Iggo Nov 2013 #73
As my idol Sue Ann Nivens said, "Sex and violence? I didn't realize they... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #85
Any act that simulates rape is violent and should be banned, IMO. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #106
Yup."Pretend" porn violence should be banned.If pretend sex is imagined as real, so is the violence. ancianita Nov 2013 #127
The Google definition for violent: ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #115
So is getting a tattoo violent? backscatter712 Nov 2013 #150
violence toward the body yes and i have even heard academia discuss invasive surgeries as seabeyond Nov 2013 #155
If we use the Google definition, ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #173
That's the trick... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #183
no one.... NO ONE said anyone should go into jail with a consented violent act. NO ONE. seabeyond Nov 2013 #189
A lot of people in the thread about David Cameron's "rape porn" ban supported exactly that. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #194
This? "Praying Mantis eats the head of her mate during sex" FarCenter Nov 2013 #120
Who cannot discern violence or its simulation? Do we have a problem with detecting it in NON-porn? WinkyDink Nov 2013 #129
just about everyone on this thread, lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #132
Heh. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #182
Getting the dog off the bed first jberryhill Nov 2013 #130
Hello children, today's secret word of the day is CONSENT! backscatter712 Nov 2013 #134
anything against someone's will. aside from that it's really not my business La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #135
None of them. If it's violent, it's not sex. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #138
really? whipping leads to sex or part of the act, but not violent? you explain. seabeyond Nov 2013 #144
"Acting" isn't violence either. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #168
when acting you are not really grabbing the hair and yanking, causing pain. if they really do that seabeyond Nov 2013 #171
obviously, it's not YOUR kink, and if you "do not get" it BuddhaGirl Nov 2013 #222
Everything Zen Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #139
I think consent makes the difference. tammywammy Nov 2013 #141
unacceptable violence, acceptable violence. with boxing it is violent. but it is acceptable violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #145
So who draws the line between "acceptable" and "unacceptable"? Someone like Ken Cuccinelli? backscatter712 Nov 2013 #149
wtf? a question was ask on what violent sex is. who the fuck cares what that dude is saying? seabeyond Nov 2013 #151
I bring him up because it's people like him who will be drawing the line. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #159
there is NO line. there is a WORD. violence. what is the definition. what are the violent acts seabeyond Nov 2013 #164
I'm not really sure what you're trying to point out. tammywammy Nov 2013 #199
Exactly. Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #201
anal dynamiting nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #147
*MEEP! MEEP!* Kurovski Jan 2014 #242
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #176
Anal sex? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #177
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I'm well aware. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #181
Agree and well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #187
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #196
More homophobic bull**** LittleBlue Nov 2013 #185
Definitely was exactly that! It was a homophobic bigoted poster count of 3 passing through. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #188
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #198
Oh boy. Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #179
Strangulation sex HockeyMom Nov 2013 #192
death by misadventure i would say. loli phabay Nov 2013 #203
You can choose BainsBane Nov 2013 #208
Maybe I'd know it when I see it. Umm. MyshkinCommaPrince Nov 2013 #210
Any act that causes bruising, pain or bleeding is going too far. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #215
For me that would certainly be the case. In fact, I'm sure I'd stop long before that point. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #238
Anything in which either party does not consent. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #226
One who, seeking happiness, harms, oppresses or kills another being commits violence if flvegan Nov 2013 #235
None. I don't think sex and violence go together. Rex Dec 2013 #241
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