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In reply to the discussion: Salon: "the Warren Commission... was stacked with RFK’s political enemies" [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)41. Actually, it's unreliable for everyone.
Did you even read my post? The WC ran the same paraffin test with the same gun that Oswald shot, and got the same negative result. Do you really not understand that? Are you really so determined to ignore the evidence that you are able to switch off reading comprehension just like that?
I guess that is why he was down in the lunchroom immediately after the shots were fired eating his leisurely lunch
I have no idea how you came to believe that he was eating a leisurely lunch. Are you just making this stuff up as you go?
On edit, here's testimony about the paraffin test from the WC. Not that it's going to matter to you...
CUNNINGHAM: Yes.
We fired the rifle. Mr. Killion fired it three times rapidly, using similar ammunition to that used in the assassination. We reran the tests both on the cheek and both hands. This time we got a negative reaction on all casts.
EISENBERG: So to recapitulate, after firing the rifle rapid-fire no residues of any nitrate were picked off Mr. Killion's cheek?
CUNNINGHAM: That is correct, and there were none on the hands. We cleaned off the rifle again with dilute HCl. I loaded it for him. He held it in one of the cleaned areas and I pushed the clip in so he would not have to get his hands near the chamberin other words, so he wouldnt pick up residues, from it, or from the action, or from the receiver. When we ran the casts, we got no reaction on either hand or on his cheek. On the controls, when he hadn't fired a gun all day, we got numerous reactions.
Cunningham had explained earlier why a false negative could arise with the rifle (3H492):
EISENBERG: A paraffin test was also run of Oswald's cheek and it produced a negative result.
CUNNINGHAM: Yes.
EISENBERG: Do your tests, or do the tests which you ran, or your experience with revolvers and rifles, cast any light on the significance of a negative result being obtained on the right cheek?
CUNNINGHAM: No, sir; I personally wouldnt expect to find any residues on a person's right cheek after firing a rifle due to the fact that by the very principles and the manufacture and the action, the cartridge itself is sealed into the chamber by the bolt being closed behind it, and upon firing the case, the cartridge case expands into the chamber filling it up and sealing it off from the gases, so none will come back in your face, and so by its very nature, I would not expect to find residue on the right cheek of a shooter.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/factoid2.htm
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Salon: "the Warren Commission... was stacked with RFK’s political enemies" [View all]
villager
Nov 2013
OP
Exactly. The Lone Nut Theorists are desperate not to talk about the political atmosphere
villager
Nov 2013
#2
"Dr. James Humes, the Navy pathologist....burned his original autopsy report in the fireplace
villager
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#6
The forensic evidence is a distraction. Whether Oswald fired shots or did not is NOT the question
sabrina 1
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#20
Yes, discredit the whistle blowers. Maybe equate them with holocaust deniers on a public fourm.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#131
Nor the Fact that there are no real conspiracy theories about the attempted Reagan shooting.
RC
Nov 2013
#5
So you don't think our domestic right-wing is actually capable of such things?
villager
Nov 2013
#23
The mob hated JFK because of RFK's work against them, why would they want the
Uncle Joe
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#76
No, we have to look way behind the distraction of the 'ballistics, the forensic evidence etc which
sabrina 1
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#22
No, it is far from 'zero' unless you don't want to see it. Fortunately a majority of people DO see
sabrina 1
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#56
This made me LOL: "I think one day, maybe in the not-too-distant future, this crime will be solved"
DanTex
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#58
I don't find them credible. A common MO is to just make LNT statements with an
GoneFishin
Nov 2013
#49
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sabrina 1
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#65
So concentrating on what actually happened in Dealey Plaza is a distraction?
Bolo Boffin
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#64
There was a murder committed in a town not far from where I lived several years ago. They got the
sabrina 1
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#66
I don't have a problem accepting that. I don't know for sure but it doesn't alter much about the
sabrina 1
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#110
There are untold numbers of delusional people who want to be somebody important. Who want power and
sabrina 1
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#111
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sabrina 1
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#115
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sabrina 1
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#141
I hope the investigators weren't distracted by the forensic evidence.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#121
The paraffin test is a reliable test used in criminal courts in this country.
former9thward
Nov 2013
#46
OK, so you're going to ignore the WC reproduction of the paraffin test. That figures.
DanTex
Nov 2013
#48
LOL. They know he didn't meander around the 6th floor looking for a place to stash the
DanTex
Nov 2013
#59
"The rifle was found stashed under some boxes in the opposite corner of the 6th floor..."
Bolo Boffin
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#62
Yes, I have been on the sixth floor. The rifle's hiding place was on the way to the staircase.
Bolo Boffin
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#68
Facts are facts, former9thward. The hiding place for the rifle is along the path to the staircase.
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#72
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Uncle Joe
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#86
Apparently Oswald didn't want to quit or get fired from that job unlike the other two
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Of course he wasn't aware. But others were. Just one more historical coincidence, an amazing
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#113
If the shots were from the rear, how did JFK's brain material get on the trunk?
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#43
Because the shockwave of the bullet passing through his brain exploded his head.
Spider Jerusalem
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#47
+1000. I agree on the "bizarre mission to "debunk" with strawman arguments etc."
GoneFishin
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#51
Thanks Mc Mike -- my avatar is actually a tribute to the late "PurityofEssence,"
villager
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