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In reply to the discussion: Is there anyone here who is good with Symbolic Logic? Here's a challenge.. [View all]longship
(40,416 posts)28. There's a bit of begging the question, too.
Begging the question, not in the casual sense of the phrase's use, which I always phrase as "invites the question", but in the more formal logical argument sense, where it means assuming the conclusion in the premise.
The argument here is indeed a classic case of excluded middle, but it also touches on begging the question because the argument is set up such that it presents a choice, either Jesus was God or was bad, that no believer would choose the latter. That's begging the question.
I agree with Immoderate, the primary fallacy is "the excluded middle" "false dichotomy" in the premise which makes the entire argument fallacious.
Happy to respond to fun stuff like this.
R&K
The argument here is indeed a classic case of excluded middle, but it also touches on begging the question because the argument is set up such that it presents a choice, either Jesus was God or was bad, that no believer would choose the latter. That's begging the question.
I agree with Immoderate, the primary fallacy is "the excluded middle" "false dichotomy" in the premise which makes the entire argument fallacious.
Happy to respond to fun stuff like this.
R&K
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Is there anyone here who is good with Symbolic Logic? Here's a challenge.. [View all]
truth2power
Nov 2013
OP
The problem is that the original premise contains a fallacy. It is not valid or sound.
immoderate
Nov 2013
#24
It assumes that because the gospels attribute to Jesus claims of divinity...
antigone382
Nov 2013
#5
All authoritarian arguments are rooted in a false premise, and this one is an easy example.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#6
The first premise is flawed, to be sure, but that doesn't change the validity of the argument
fishwax
Nov 2013
#25
At least it wouldn't be cannibalism....unless those indulging are also tuna.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#31
You can apply a second logical tautology showing Person A is not a bad man and is not God
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#17
That's called disjunctive syllogism: it's generally been considered a valid argument form
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#40
I merely said it's considered a valid argument form: I made no claim about the truth
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#47
Where does boosh's 'they hate us for our freedoms' fall?…seems to me it was never logically...
Tikki
Nov 2013
#52
This is essentially the argument used by C.S. Lewis to prove Christ's divinity.
Sognefjord
Nov 2013
#64
Proud of DU... I have a Master's in Philosophy (though not focused on symbolic logic)...
Democracyinkind
Nov 2013
#69
I wonder if that goober believes that himself or is just brainwashing the kids.
bemildred
Nov 2013
#71