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In reply to the discussion: It has not gone unnoticed (re: porn) [View all]TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Nowhere did I bring up any porn-hating feminists-- I'm talking in general about anti-porn crusaders, who may or may not be feminists. Or female.
I thought I was clear about "Two Women" not being porn, but having a profoundly moving rape scene. Both mother and daughter are powerless against the marauders and that's driven home brilliantly. Compared to it, rape porn is a cartoon.
Yeah, slasher flicks are pretty bad, but I'm not sure how they fit into all this. The comments about "deserving it" always meant to me that the victims did something really stupid. Female victims also seemed to me to be more sympathetic because they're not expected to be good at fighting back, and they get more face time simply because of the shock and sympathy factor. And you'll notice that the women tend to have slightly cooler heads in these flicks with one or two of the guys running off at the mouth and trying to run things. And they run things badly. What does that mean?
I get it that the first one to die in a slasher flick is the girl who's screwing when the action starts, but I never saw that as slut-shaming, just a cheap shot to start the action. Besides, nobody's going to be screwing when the slasher gets going, so get the titillation out of the way early.
And so it goes for polls and studies that show victim blaming and empathy disappearing. They've done studies on how news reports of these crimes affect the public of all genders and it leaves one questioning if it's porn, or any form of increased exposure that can cause a change in attitude.
And, yeah, I would imagine the audience for slasher flicks would lean more toward violence of any sort than the general population. No surprise there.
Feel free to decry anything you want. My problem with the decrying is confined to some people who are anti-sex and others (often the same ones) who are anti-porn of any sort.
Happy thanksgiving to you, too, and the threatened storm was just a little rain and a little wind around here. Traffic jams, airport delays, and even AMTRAK don't need much of an excuse to cause aggravation, but the weather was surprisingly light.