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RC

(25,592 posts)
16. But, but, but the TAXES to PAY for all this!!!!1!!!11
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 12:01 PM
Nov 2013

Why should I help you to pay for your kid? That's socialism. People's gotta learn to be self-sufficient. How do ya expect other people to be self-sufficient if their government keeps helping everbody, instead showing'em who's in charge by droning an bombing'em?

That said, I think this gift box is a wonderful idea. The sorry part is, it wasn't invented here and to get our own government to implement something like this would be just as hard as passing a law for Single Payer, Universal Health Care in this country. It would help too many people. Too many people think as in the first paragraph above. Billions for bombs and we have to continually fight to keep the crumbs from being taken away and we depend on the generosity of others for what should be well woven government safety nets to prevent the poverty, pain and suffering of so many here.

A food bank here in Kansas City was empty the day before yesterday, not much hope of helping anyone for Thanksgiving this year. It took a news story, one news story, to fill it up to overflowing. A properly run government, responsive to the people, would all but eliminate the need for food banks in the first place.


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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Section 8

1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;



You and I are a part of the "general welfare" mentioned in the Constitution. We do well, the country does well. In fact, "We the people" ARE the purpose of the government. To look out for our general welfare, as charged twice in the Constitution.
Our government is sadly deficient in that department and yet most of us accept that as normal and right.

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SOCIALISM!!!... lame54 Nov 2013 #1
How dare those godless commies! Major Nikon Nov 2013 #12
What a great idea PatSeg Nov 2013 #2
Does it come in gold or chrome? TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #3
The bBox! grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #28
Deluxe! adirondacker Nov 2013 #38
You mean bbBox. For the ittle bitty bb. nt Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #39
HAHA! grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #47
Aw, it's like an official Welcome to the World! LisaLynne Nov 2013 #4
Here it's yoyo time as soon as you are born. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #5
And then find grounds to deny you the box. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #26
Fantastic!!! eqfan592 Nov 2013 #6
We could learn so damn much from a lot of countries, about a lot of things. RC Nov 2013 #15
No kidding CFLDem Nov 2013 #22
When TPTB are eaten up with a right-wing ideology and mantra that has permeated every stratum of indepat Nov 2013 #34
3rd worldism for us Hoi polloi. RC Nov 2013 #37
All this and an uber-wealthy class living in walled/gated communities where those of the 99% will indepat Nov 2013 #46
Kate and Prince William got one Kaleva Nov 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author progressoid Nov 2013 #8
WOW! That's a lot of goodies! Pic from your link... Lisa0825 Nov 2013 #10
A good starter set for any newborn. Kaleva Nov 2013 #14
But, but, but the TAXES to PAY for all this!!!!1!!!11 RC Nov 2013 #16
"general welfare of the United States" now means the MIC and our corporate overlords. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #30
Outdoor gear? progressoid Nov 2013 #9
That's awesome. n/t Gore1FL Nov 2013 #11
Those Finns are taking money out of billionaires' wallets! nt valerief Nov 2013 #13
And the last item listed that comes in the box...Condoms The Straight Story Nov 2013 #17
Love the last one. Agschmid Nov 2013 #31
Cartainly they could lop off the top 50% who can easily afford a cardboard box. maced666 Nov 2013 #18
Typical American response, LWolf Nov 2013 #19
Yes - too, too American. polichick Nov 2013 #40
grump grumble gripe fume NBachers Nov 2013 #27
How do you know that the govt doesn't already offer post birth care of some form? SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #32
Of course they do. Finland has NHS, like all civilised countries do. And parental leave. :) idwiyo Nov 2013 #49
Once it's means tested there's pressure from the people who don't get it to cut corners. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #33
That sure is a heck of a thing for you to get offended about. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #35
I'm hopeful that you just forgot your sarcasm tag. TBF Nov 2013 #42
It's the basic idea that every one is equal, no matter what their bank account. Lars39 Nov 2013 #45
Clearly sucking at the government teat - eom dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #20
When my first child was born, back in 1977, LWolf Nov 2013 #21
James Thompson is an American writer who has lived in Finland for many years Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #23
Safer Than Toxic Foam/Fire Retardant Cribs otohara Nov 2013 #24
Wow, what a brilliant common sense idea. ryan_cats Nov 2013 #25
The Mom's here get >>> BlueJazz Nov 2013 #29
It even has CONDOMS!!! I can just see forced-birthers heads exploding ... idwiyo Nov 2013 #36
Pretty neat idea...but it would be rejected here in the states. ileus Nov 2013 #41
Wow, some Americans are around for 30 or 40 years before they start sleeping in cardboard boxes Bucky Nov 2013 #43
in milwaukee there is a huge problem with infants killed by sleeping in parents beds and being dembotoz Nov 2013 #44
It they did it here in the US it would be because the 1% wants to make sure cui bono Nov 2013 #48
good idea Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #50
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