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In reply to the discussion: What sexual acts do you consider to be violent? [View all]nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)234. But should it be condemned simply because it meets the strict definition of "violence"?
I'm not talking about porn here. I'm talking about people's private sex lives. I have no interest whatsoever in defending violent pornography, and those who defend it vehemently kind of creep me out.
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On a practical level, that has to be it. Otherwise you really are butting into people's bedrooms.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#225
on a counterpoint, if people want to film what they do in their bedroom and share with others
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#230
Things that cause more pain than pleasure. Of course, that's very subjective.
LuvNewcastle
Nov 2013
#3
"that was violence on par with rape" that would fit the definition of violent if intent was to hurt
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#72
no. i did not say that. intent to hurt, then violent. consent or not, doesnt matter. and no
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#76
i do not get why the definition of violence is so hard. intentional hit in face = violence. violence
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#79
who said you could not have it. if you want violence inflicted on you, go at it haus. STILL
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#86
hey. so we throw away the dictionary cause we have to self define in order to do something? really?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#94
because we choose to blur the definition of words so we can easily swallow something. rape, violence
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#99
again, thank you for the back up reinforcing my point. of course violence includes and goes
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#101
Who the fuck is anyone to say some biting or a kickass spanking is unnatural?
bobclark86
Nov 2013
#207
What does 'we've seen studies come up' mean? What 'studies'? Where? Did they 'come up' or
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#7
Hmmm....holding the door to the bedroom open for someone might be bad
The Straight Story
Nov 2013
#13
so, alone in a room with a man, pressuring her, the more she says no, the more pressure, until....
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#21
I think what you are describing is a predatory asshole. You might be right that someone can be a
el_bryanto
Nov 2013
#26
I don't disagree with you - I think trying to define the exact border between rape and non-rape
el_bryanto
Nov 2013
#60
There are different types of abuse. Violence is the imposition of one's will upon another.
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#96
Why this sudden zeal on DU to get others to accept violence as acceptable sexual expression?
Skidmore
Nov 2013
#15
we also oppose the abuse of the lack of voice. with this one issue, we throw them under the bus
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#36
you and others want to shut this conversation down with religion/morally wrong. that is not where
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#44
I don't want to shut down any conversation - and I apologize if I give off that aura
el_bryanto
Nov 2013
#46
in ALL my life, my line is never to purposely hurt another. i figure i am pretty safe
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#50
except someone in the thread already put that up... and i stated yes, that would be violence.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#131
does the definition of violence = illegal? do you see all violence as criminal behavior?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#157
you are wrong. ONE post, where anywhere i have even kinda suggested. you make up bogus fuckin
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#161
bullshit. they are absolutely redefining violence. the basis is they do not want
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#197
do you THINK when i say academia describes invasive surgery as violent on the body i am
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#184
And how did you get all that from "they have issues"? Seems an enormous leap... n/t
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#228
if its not your kink dont do it, but what you describe is part of a lot of peoples sex life
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#231
I guess for some it really is pleasurable. And I don't feel it's my place to judge.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#232
so much in your post but addressing this. can always call them prudes, sex negative, shame them....
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#25
sticking a huge dick in the mouth and aggressively pumping causing massive pain. is that violent?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#45
what a prude. you guys can defend this shit 'til cows come home, but cant say it outloud? lmFAO
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#175
I understand you. And it's why I give these threads a wide berth. I'm not down on Sea, but there is
freshwest
Nov 2013
#239
many seems to be clueless, amazingly. only with sex acts. ask what consititute violence in films
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#54
suddenly everyone is all fuzzy on the definition of violence, simply because it is
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#59
from the very start of the post. you ignore what i posted to you and fabricate an argument
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#63
ya. giving definition of violence is absolutely sexually negative. or honest anyway. nt
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#89
you need to understand one is intentionally hurting for one or both to get off is STILL
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#83
But should it be condemned simply because it meets the strict definition of "violence"?
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#234
no. you did not. the definition of violence is pretty easy to find. that simple. that is the ONLY
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#71
it absolutely is intended to hurt. now, it is done concentually. that pain is wanted. the intent
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#109
no. no arbitrarily involved. hurt intentionally to inflict pain to gain pleasure. simply.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#112
Yes, if you two haven't previously agreed that he may pressure you to have sex
KitSileya
Nov 2013
#74
I would put sex in a different category from most any other task done in a relationship.
KitSileya
Nov 2013
#118
It's amazing how many liberals turn into prudish freepers when the topic turns to sex.
Xithras
Nov 2013
#140
it's amazing how many when talking about their sex life cannot even mutter the word violence
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#143
so what? people get off on it. it is still violence. this is fuckin amazing. nt
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#169
Whether it's "violent" is irrelevant. It's the motivations that are important.
Xithras
Nov 2013
#190
My answer may not have been literal, but my meaning wasn't. Consensual sex is never violent.
Xithras
Nov 2013
#211
Yup."Pretend" porn violence should be banned.If pretend sex is imagined as real, so is the violence.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#127
violence toward the body yes and i have even heard academia discuss invasive surgeries as
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#155
no one.... NO ONE said anyone should go into jail with a consented violent act. NO ONE.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#189
A lot of people in the thread about David Cameron's "rape porn" ban supported exactly that.
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#194
Who cannot discern violence or its simulation? Do we have a problem with detecting it in NON-porn?
WinkyDink
Nov 2013
#129
anything against someone's will. aside from that it's really not my business
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#135
really? whipping leads to sex or part of the act, but not violent? you explain.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#144
when acting you are not really grabbing the hair and yanking, causing pain. if they really do that
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#171
unacceptable violence, acceptable violence. with boxing it is violent. but it is acceptable violence
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#145
So who draws the line between "acceptable" and "unacceptable"? Someone like Ken Cuccinelli?
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#149
wtf? a question was ask on what violent sex is. who the fuck cares what that dude is saying?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#151
I bring him up because it's people like him who will be drawing the line.
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#159
there is NO line. there is a WORD. violence. what is the definition. what are the violent acts
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#164
Definitely was exactly that! It was a homophobic bigoted poster count of 3 passing through. n/t
RKP5637
Nov 2013
#188
For me that would certainly be the case. In fact, I'm sure I'd stop long before that point.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#238
One who, seeking happiness, harms, oppresses or kills another being commits violence if
flvegan
Nov 2013
#235