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In reply to the discussion: JFK Conference: David Talbot named Allen Dulles as 'the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination' [View all]Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)132. Nope:
The question of an Oswald imposter was also raised in an FBI letterhead memorandum to the Secret Service dated November 23, 1963. It was based in part upon information received by CIA headquarters on October 9, 1963, that on October 1, 1963, Oswald had contacted the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City:
The Central Intelligence Agency advised that on October 1, 1963, an extremely sensitive source had reported that an individual identified himself as Lee Oswald, who contacted the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City inquiring as to any messages. Special Agents of this Bureau, who have conversed with Oswald in Dallas, Tex., have observed photographs of the individual referred to above and have listened to a recording of his voice. These Special Agents are of the opinion that the above-referred-to individual was not Lee Harvey Oswald.
In response to a committee inquiry, the FBI reported that no tape recording of Oswald's voice was in fact ever received. The Bureau explained that its Dallas office only received the report of a conversation to which Oswald had been a party. This explanation was independently confirmed by the committee. A review of relevant FBI cable traffic established that at 7:23 p.m. (CST) on November 23, 1963, Dallas Special Agent-in-Charge Shanklin advised Director Hoover that only a report of this conversation was available, not an actual tape recording. On November 25, the Dallas office again apprised the Director that "[t]here appears to be some confusion in that no tapes were taken to Dallas * * * [O]nly typewritten [reports were] supplied * * *."
Shanklin stated in a committee interview that no recording was ever received by FBI officials in Dallas. Moreover, former FBI Special Agents James Hosty, John W. Fain, Burnett Tom Carter, and Arnold J. Brown, each of whom had conversed with Oswald at one time, informed the committee they had never listened to a recording of Oswald's voice.
Finally, on the basis of an extensive file review and detailed testimony by present and former CIA officials and employees, the committee determined that CIA headquarters never received a recording of Oswald's voice. The committee concluded, therefore, that the information in the November 23, 1963, letterhead memorandum was mistaken and did not provide a basis for concluding that there had been an Oswald imposter.
House Select Committee on Assassinations, Report, pp. 249-250.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/clueless3.htm
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JFK Conference: David Talbot named Allen Dulles as 'the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination' [View all]
Octafish
Nov 2013
OP
I think Obama may be facing the same kind of opposition and a lot of things are beyond
kelliekat44
Nov 2013
#1
Omg! I knew a little about this, but like so many others, found it hard to process. But if we are
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#71
Allen Dulles and JCS chairman Lemnitzer told JFK the best time to attack USSR was 'Fall 1963'
Octafish
Nov 2013
#20
A lot of people probably don't know this major policy speech President Kennedy gave...
Historic NY
Nov 2013
#98
I wasnt referring to you. I clearly said that I was not accusing you. I dont even know
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#18
I don't know. That's why I want to see ALL the government's JFK records opened.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#17
No one at Duquesne expressed condescension and bullying to those with opposing views.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#50
The problem isn't what I know or can can prove. The problem is CIA and secret government.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#61
"This takes me back to the good old days in the old 911 forum. Truthers had reams of "evidence" too.
dotymed
Nov 2013
#80
You are right in a way. Who it would not draw are authoritarian personalities who are
GoneFishin
Nov 2013
#101
J. Edgar Hoover told LBJ that the Oswald in Mexico City wasn't the same guy in Dallas jail.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#52
No No No. The FBI Director told POTUS that they had video and voice recordings of the man
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#131
R#6 & K saluting the inimitable, indefatigable Octafish, gratitude for what he brings here
UTUSN
Nov 2013
#8
Actually it's reality going back to Walter Jenkin's 29 November 1963 memo to LBJ
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#49
To go along with the LBJ plan, which was to keep the USA from going to war with the USSR.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#81
Why would Katzenbach send this memo to Bill Moyers, before any of the facts were in?
Mc Mike
Nov 2013
#83
Thanks McMike. That memo is testament that the government was interested in Oswald being framed
avaistheone1
Nov 2013
#116
Eisenhower and Smedley Butler Warned us about the MIC and Intelligence agencies.
dballance
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#12
David Slawson, Warren Commission investigator, tried to warn us and was told to zip it...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#104
''The younger Dulles saw no separation between his business and the country's business.''
Octafish
Nov 2013
#107
The JFK assassination was a very important event in all our lives. Thank you for your reports.
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#14
Dulles assassinated a political ally of President Kennedy three days before JFK's inaugural.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#113
I second robertpaulsen's remarks of praise to you Octofish and extend to rhettorick
2banon
Nov 2013
#118
after the big 'stinks' caused by assassinations with guns, they discovered small plane crashes
certainot
Nov 2013
#21
to many preventive 'accidents', and until people quit calling 'tinfoil' every time, it will continue
certainot
Nov 2013
#145
i remember that. there used to be a list of these 'airplane accidents' at unknownnews.net by cheryl
certainot
Nov 2013
#146
A key procedural thing is that there was no advocate for the truth in these proceedings
BlueStreak
Nov 2013
#141
You forgot your links to the Warren Report, you know, the source in question.
GoneFishin
Dec 2013
#157
Okay then, let's presume for just a moment that the conspiracy version is correct.
Spider Jerusalem
Dec 2013
#158
There was a hole in the windshield, and we don't know about his left brain because it disappeared nt
GoneFishin
Dec 2013
#168
The investigation of Bobby Baker would have involved not only LBJ, but RFK, Hoover and JFK
mc51tc
Nov 2013
#48
Wait a minute. So, according to you, this "Bobby picked Dulles" crap is based on ...
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#53
LBJ said in 1969, after leaving office, that he always suspected a conspiracy.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#129
May light be shone in every crook and cranny until the truth, the whole truth triumphs
indepat
Nov 2013
#39
Confirming imo 'pukes will do whatever is necessary to gain and retain control, a clear and
indepat
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#160
''Dulles had even less respect for Jack Kennedy's authority than he did for FDR's.''
Octafish
Dec 2013
#165
The recent Rolling Stone article by RFK JR., is very enlightening as to his brother's
maddiemom
Nov 2013
#76
The Oligarchs And Corporations Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us
cantbeserious
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#90
K&R + some more informative links (Thank you-your DU journal and BFEE series is among the best when
bobthedrummer
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#108
Thank you, bobthedrummer! Here are the posts on the sad anniversary and the Duquesne Conference...
Octafish
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#140
US News & World Report asked Sabato and 5 other academics: 'Was it a conspiracy?'
Octafish
Dec 2013
#174
So, apart from insults for his critics, you've nothing to say about Allen Dulles?
Octafish
Nov 2013
#152