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TreasonousBastard

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8. I really don't know how you test for this, but...

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:44 PM

Nov 2013

back in the day I spent a fair amount of time wrecked on good hash we got in Amsterdam and I scared the living shit out of myself more than once trying to drive home. The Autobahn was a real treat when high. A lot of this has to do with the individual, because when I drank and drove in the past, I was also extra careful because I knew I was drunk.

Speaking from experience, the problem while stoned is centered on sensual perceptions of things like speed and distance while alcohol additionally wipes out your motor skills. Fortunately, I never got caught, or hurt anything, while high, but I'm not altogether comfortable with allowing yet more mind altering substances on the roads. I was lucky, not smart. And there was no texting back then.

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Marijuana's risk to drivers debated [View all] Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 OP

Back in my stoner days Ron Green Nov 2013 #1

Hysterical officials channeling the ignorance of reefer madness on point Nov 2013 #2

You hit the nail on the head. Th1onein Nov 2013 #43

I am very interested to see how this plays out. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #3

Arrests shouldn't be based on substances used Warpy Nov 2013 #4

+1. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #9

Prescription pain-killers have a label that says not to drive or operate machinery arcane1 Nov 2013 #18

The problem with cannabis is there is no drug test bemildred Nov 2013 #21

No there's an actual blood test. hollowdweller Nov 2013 #23

Right, and it tells you if someone has used cannabis in the last two weeks or so. bemildred Nov 2013 #25

And probably something like "open container" laws, too. arcane1 Nov 2013 #24

"I know what you mean" bemildred Nov 2013 #28

Actually, it says something quite different Warpy Nov 2013 #60

I'm fine with treating pot DUIs like prescription drug DUIs Hippo_Tron Dec 2013 #110

Yes. RainDog Dec 2013 #93

I wouldn't recommend that anyone drive stoned. MADem Nov 2013 #5

Marijuana doesn't impair motor skills. That's the reality that Drug Warriors can't/won't process. nt Romulox Nov 2013 #6

Ding a ling..... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #36

A Highway Patrolman once had occasion to tell a friend of mine Ace Acme Dec 2013 #102

that is so me..... Bennyboy Dec 2013 #108

The one time I rode with a stoned driver, Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #112

Oh, yes it does. I can barely drive on the stuff, and Skip Intro Dec 2013 #89

Obey your speed limits & your weed limits Blue Owl Nov 2013 #7

I really don't know how you test for this, but... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #8

Don't try it in the UK dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #10

Is this the George Michael Law? Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #12

That law has no basis in any actual science. But that hasn't stopped British politicians before. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #14

From where do you think America got that big stick up its butt? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #20

I see the insurance marsis Nov 2013 #30

Drunk driver blows through the stop sign; stoned driver waits for it to turn green. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #11

Arcata No-Go Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #16

LOL. bemildred Nov 2013 #34

HIGH-lee-larry-us. Bennyboy Nov 2013 #37

The Accident countryjake Nov 2013 #46

LOL-- yep, happens EVERY day.... mike_c Dec 2013 #80

LOL! Th1onein Nov 2013 #45

And waits and waits... pangaia Dec 2013 #77

I am sorry but NO intoxicant page of coins Nov 2013 #13

There's no test for smoking during/just before driving. The test covers 4+ weeks before. nt Romulox Nov 2013 #17

Yes, and I understand that THC is stored in the body for a long time. page of coins Nov 2013 #19

No one but you is advocating for driving while impaired. The debate centers around whether or not Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #22

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What if they only ride bicycles? uppityperson Nov 2013 #27

bicycles are no Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #48

That isn't advocating driving while impaired. He just made an off-hand comment... Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #31

Thats why I only toke behind the Library! William769 Nov 2013 #32

Additionally, no one can point to any incident/accident where it is proved that it Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #33

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The problem with legislation of this type is that it can't work. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #50

Never got high huh? Bennyboy Nov 2013 #38

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It helps me drive, quite simply.... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #44

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true. nt DesertFlower Dec 2013 #105

A split second seveneyes Nov 2013 #41

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Cannabis is NOT an "intoxicant" TheSarcastinator Nov 2013 #63

i agree. nt DesertFlower Dec 2013 #104

Test for impairment, not for metabolites. it's pretty simple. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #15

This shouldn't be hard. hollowdweller Nov 2013 #29

Sanjay Gupta in the special WEED Bennyboy Nov 2013 #39

Yes. Inexperienced weed users shouldn't toke and drive RainDog Dec 2013 #94

B-I-N-G-O! Bennyboy Dec 2013 #100

more Reefer Madness that is not true. TeamPooka Nov 2013 #49

There is NO weed today Politicalboi Nov 2013 #51

there most certainly is weed that can be smelled double bagged PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #52

Is this parody? NoOneMan Nov 2013 #54

The various aromas are from terpenes RainDog Dec 2013 #98

Im 100 times the driver on pot than I am on nicotine NoOneMan Nov 2013 #53

What the article doesn't say about anti-histamines Pitagoras Nov 2013 #55

Can you offer a citation for that claim? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #56

Yeah Pitagoras Nov 2013 #58

I am much more concerned walkingman Nov 2013 #57

I drive slower and more cautious when stoned. I B Calm Nov 2013 #59

Could it be that you drive more cautiously because you know you're at a higher risk? Pitagoras Nov 2013 #61

Yeah, one problem with that TheSarcastinator Nov 2013 #62

The "research" you cited isn't even peer-reviewed Pitagoras Dec 2013 #66

Have you ever drove stoned? B Calm Dec 2013 #70

That's Right: it is an Ongoing Study TheSarcastinator Dec 2013 #74

Man, you shouldn't have given me that first link Pitagoras Dec 2013 #75

Marijuana advocates say that because it isn't politically palatable to say... Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #85

You can test positive for pot for 30 days after smoking it. B Calm Dec 2013 #109

I know. And the levels of THC in the blood would be minuscule after 30 days Pitagoras Dec 2013 #111

Utterly meaningless. Cannabis in the blood is no indication of impairment eridani Dec 2013 #113

All I know is OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #64

RE Anomalism Dec 2013 #83

I agree it shouldn't be OwnedByCats Dec 2013 #91

Nice first post. Is that your professional opinion or are you just winging it? bluesbassman Dec 2013 #96

teh crimes is not listed as driving while drunk DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #65

Doesn't surprise me in the least Bohunk68 Dec 2013 #67

I was once in a car on a cross-country trip Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #68

No driving under the influence. Full stop. Veruca Salt Dec 2013 #69

The biggest risk from Marijuana is making really shitty music seem good Major Nikon Dec 2013 #71

bath salts....nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #72

OK, one other explanation Major Nikon Dec 2013 #73

Really? How about you provide some of your stuff so you can be critiqued? At ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #79

Here you go Major Nikon Dec 2013 #90

this whole debate demonstrates the damage that alcohol abuse has done to society.... mike_c Dec 2013 #76

Amen. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #78

You missed this study: wercal Dec 2013 #82

did you read it? mike_c Dec 2013 #87

Well the bar has been moved wercal Dec 2013 #95

B-I-N-G-O! Bennyboy Dec 2013 #84

I really can't believe what I am reading on this thread wercal Dec 2013 #81

How about we punish drivers who actually impaired? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #86

Instead of comparing it to cell phone driving, why don't you compare it to sober driving? Pitagoras Dec 2013 #92

Last I checked, texting while driving is illegal in my state wercal Dec 2013 #99

Reading the actual study, they didn't omit drunk drivers.... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #88

Well I guess a laughing smiley ends the debate wercal Dec 2013 #97

You're wrong. That's a review of studies, not "the actual study", as if it were only one Pitagoras Dec 2013 #107

I would prefer that people don't toke and drive within a 2 hour period RainDog Dec 2013 #106

How can there be a debate�you drive while under the influence of pot you shouldn't drive and... Tikki Dec 2013 #101

there's no way i could smoke pot DesertFlower Dec 2013 #103