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Me on porn. [View all] RandySF Nov 2013 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Nov 2013 #1

Would I know you if i saw you? Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #2

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lol nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #72

Is that also how you feel about kiddie porn? dawg Nov 2013 #4

Kids are harmed in kiddie porn and there are laws that prevent children from penultimate Nov 2013 #7

You gave an intelligent, well thought-out answer. I disagree with you ... dawg Nov 2013 #8

Well, you better get out your ban-hammer then. LAGC Nov 2013 #10

But do people try to get off to anime? dawg Nov 2013 #12

yeah, its s question that you probuably wont want answered. loli phabay Nov 2013 #14

If you're looking for a fair or reasoned legal precient for limiting freedom, marijuana prohibition Kurska Nov 2013 #19

I disagree with laws limiting what adults can do penultimate Nov 2013 #39

Kids can't consent and simulated anything should be illegal, no matter how disgusting it is n/t Kurska Nov 2013 #18

I'm sorry. RandySF Nov 2013 #46

I don't think hardly anyone who regularly posts on this board would want to ban porn. dawg Nov 2013 #49

What about where two obviously adult men in their 40s are having sex MNBrewer Nov 2013 #50

I think you lost your point at ... dawg Nov 2013 #52

I don't know how the law makes that distinction. It's a depiction of underage sex, is it not? MNBrewer Nov 2013 #55

If the character played by the 40 year-old had been consistently depicted as being underage ... dawg Nov 2013 #56

better question would be, would you ban all porn and whats the cutoff point between porn loli phabay Nov 2013 #5

There is no cutoff between porn and art. Porn is art. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #9

i would agree, everyone has their own taste in art kinda like music or food. loli phabay Nov 2013 #16

I'm pro-choice. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #6

How about if you are in a relationship with someone who likes it page of coins Nov 2013 #11

kinda like sports or chinese foods. its something couples work out. loli phabay Nov 2013 #15

Then it should be only an occasional thing that the porn-liking partner ... dawg Nov 2013 #21

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Just as with gambling, it ruins some people's lives. dawg Nov 2013 #51

That's something you have to work out, then. RandySF Nov 2013 #47

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Agreed. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #13

Yeah. Just like guns, gambling, prostitution, drugs. No one thinks any of those ... dawg Nov 2013 #17

Don't use the word regulated, when what you mean is banned. Kurska Nov 2013 #20

I would never be in favor of a blanket ban on porn. dawg Nov 2013 #22

You're free to to not like it all day, all night and everyday ending in y. Kurska Nov 2013 #24

I wouldn't jail anyone unless there was "actual" rape, statutory or otherwise. dawg Nov 2013 #26

That is a good sentiment, but I don't know how it is workable in a constitutional sense Kurska Nov 2013 #28

I support making it illegal to "produce" or "distribute". dawg Nov 2013 #34

You're still encountering the freedom of speech problem. Kurska Nov 2013 #37

I'm not adjusting my opinion; I'm just explaining it better. dawg Nov 2013 #42

Citing precedents I disagree with probably won't win me over to your side. Kurska Nov 2013 #43

Determining what is or isn't porn ... dawg Nov 2013 #48

Well see, you need to determine what is or isn't porn. Kurska Nov 2013 #53

So you want to fill our prisons with people consenting adults who fuck in front of cameras? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #61

Read all my other posts in this thread and you'll have your answer. dawg Nov 2013 #63

How would you regulate porn? LittleBlue Nov 2013 #23

I'd be okay with banning rape porn or porn purporting to depict sex with minors. dawg Nov 2013 #25

Heavy fines? Kurska Nov 2013 #27

No fine at all for consumption. dawg Nov 2013 #30

I can say one thing Kurska Nov 2013 #35

Thankfully, that's unconstitutional LittleBlue Nov 2013 #32

We can't stop meth either. dawg Nov 2013 #38

How do you define what is or isn't porn? Kurska Nov 2013 #40

Legitimate writers depicting rape as part of a story should ... dawg Nov 2013 #44

There is a well established legal precedent forbidding differential treatment of different artistic Kurska Nov 2013 #45

Since you don't like simulated rape porn, don't watch it. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #58

And if you don't like assault rifles, don't buy one. dawg Nov 2013 #59

Assault rifles kill. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #67

Rifles, by themselves, can't kill anyone. dawg Nov 2013 #68

This isn't about assault rifles. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #69

Adults choose to buy assault rifles. dawg Nov 2013 #70

Good thing the government doesn't think the same way you or Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #74

Yeah, good thing. dawg Nov 2013 #76

Good thing those all involve consenting adults. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #78

So we can't even discuss the things that bother us? Even if we say explicitly - as dawg has on this nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #81

on this i agree, both sides should discuss it, but realistically its not going to make a difference loli phabay Nov 2013 #82

Consume willingly as adults, arguably, but xulamaude Nov 2013 #79

Generally speaking, I don't think minors should be exposed to hard-core porn nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #85

I don't see absolutism RainDog Nov 2013 #93

Well, it's good that we at least all agree ... dawg Nov 2013 #94

It was astonishing to me to read lies about this position RainDog Nov 2013 #96

It's astonishing to me that so many people are willing to write ... dawg Nov 2013 #97

LOL RainDog Nov 2013 #98

But you support the rape porn and simulated kiddie porn right? dawg Nov 2013 #99

IF YOU DON'T OPPOSE POT SMOKING YOU SUPPORT CANNIBALISM!!! Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #60

Mmmmmmmmmmmm......... dawg Nov 2013 #62

It's the other other white meat. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #73

What of the arguments that it is harmful to society generally? Deep13 Nov 2013 #29

People have been arguing that certain kinds of fiction are harmful to society for centuries. Kurska Nov 2013 #33

Well, talking of illegality is putting the cart before the horse. Deep13 Nov 2013 #95

let me paraphrase the general reaction BainsBane Nov 2013 #65

But it can be argued... egduj Nov 2013 #31

Except it can't be argued very well with any scientific evidence. Kurska Nov 2013 #41

Yeah, but you can prove anything with facts NoOneMan Nov 2013 #77

K&R #5 Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #57

Is that also your view on Fox? BainsBane Nov 2013 #64

If you don't like criticism of porn,don't read or listen to it. athenasatanjesus Nov 2013 #66

Not that simple. duffyduff Nov 2013 #71

And what if those adult, consenting women don't see using their bodies polly7 Nov 2013 #75

So, you believe that football should be banned Yavin4 Nov 2013 #80

" Former porn stars fare a lot better in old age than do former NFL players." xulamaude Nov 2013 #83

Um, have you seen the many media reports about traumatic brain injuries Yavin4 Nov 2013 #84

"The average porn star fares a lot better in old age than does the average NFL player." xulamaude Nov 2013 #86

There are several stats on the health of former NFL players Yavin4 Nov 2013 #87

Former porn stars' "health in old age is not an issue." xulamaude Nov 2013 #90

Also, why is there soooo much concern for people using their bodies in porn Yavin4 Nov 2013 #88

good points, there are lots of careers where people risk their health in all sorts of ways. loli phabay Nov 2013 #89

"little or no concern about workers in other industries whose bodies get exploited" xulamaude Nov 2013 #91

We haven't seen 12(?) threads recently about coal worker's being exploited Kurska Dec 2013 #100

No, but there have hundreds xulamaude Dec 2013 #103

Yet, count up the number about sex workers vs. other specific workers in the past few weeks. Kurska Dec 2013 #104

Exactly - link the last few weeks to years and years xulamaude Dec 2013 #105

I know you're apparently new here, but we've had weeks of "porn wars" pretty much every year on DU. Kurska Dec 2013 #106

DU can be read by anyone with an internet connection xulamaude Dec 2013 #107

Oh I'm sure you're very familiar with DU, I bet you know a lot about the people here. Kurska Dec 2013 #108

Okay, I'm wrong and you're right. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #110

Wow this must be the first time I ever won an argument on the interwebs Kurska Dec 2013 #111

I have a feeling.. Upton Nov 2013 #92

"It's a convenient vehicle for them to use however.." Kurska Dec 2013 #101

Asking you to think of something is banning? BainsBane Dec 2013 #112

Oh, thank goodness, thought you had a youtube link of Rex Dec 2013 #102

gmta Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #109