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TheSarcastinator

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62. Yeah, one problem with that

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:01 PM

Nov 2013

is that the evidence is against the Prohibitionists.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/12/02/driving-stoned-safer-than-driving-drunk/

"Drivers who get behind the wheel stoned instead of drunk may actually be making the roads safer in states that allow medical marijuana, according to new research.

Economists Daniel Rees of the University of Colorado Denver and Mark Anderson of Montana State University looked at traffic fatalities in thirteen states that enacted medical marijuana laws between 1990 and 2009. They found that on average, traffic fatalities in those states fell nearly 9 percent after medical pot became legal."

Legal cannabis also lowers suicide rates.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/26/1068413/-Study-Medical-Marijuana-Legalization-leads-to-decrease-in-suicide-rates

Your perpsective is outdated and based upon propaganda and prejudice. I suggest you consider revisions.

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Marijuana's risk to drivers debated [View all] Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 OP

Back in my stoner days Ron Green Nov 2013 #1

Hysterical officials channeling the ignorance of reefer madness on point Nov 2013 #2

You hit the nail on the head. Th1onein Nov 2013 #43

I am very interested to see how this plays out. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #3

Arrests shouldn't be based on substances used Warpy Nov 2013 #4

+1. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #9

Prescription pain-killers have a label that says not to drive or operate machinery arcane1 Nov 2013 #18

The problem with cannabis is there is no drug test bemildred Nov 2013 #21

No there's an actual blood test. hollowdweller Nov 2013 #23

Right, and it tells you if someone has used cannabis in the last two weeks or so. bemildred Nov 2013 #25

And probably something like "open container" laws, too. arcane1 Nov 2013 #24

"I know what you mean" bemildred Nov 2013 #28

Actually, it says something quite different Warpy Nov 2013 #60

I'm fine with treating pot DUIs like prescription drug DUIs Hippo_Tron Dec 2013 #110

Yes. RainDog Dec 2013 #93

I wouldn't recommend that anyone drive stoned. MADem Nov 2013 #5

Marijuana doesn't impair motor skills. That's the reality that Drug Warriors can't/won't process. nt Romulox Nov 2013 #6

Ding a ling..... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #36

A Highway Patrolman once had occasion to tell a friend of mine Ace Acme Dec 2013 #102

that is so me..... Bennyboy Dec 2013 #108

The one time I rode with a stoned driver, Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #112

Oh, yes it does. I can barely drive on the stuff, and Skip Intro Dec 2013 #89

Obey your speed limits & your weed limits Blue Owl Nov 2013 #7

I really don't know how you test for this, but... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #8

Don't try it in the UK dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #10

Is this the George Michael Law? Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #12

That law has no basis in any actual science. But that hasn't stopped British politicians before. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #14

From where do you think America got that big stick up its butt? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #20

I see the insurance marsis Nov 2013 #30

Drunk driver blows through the stop sign; stoned driver waits for it to turn green. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #11

Arcata No-Go Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #16

LOL. bemildred Nov 2013 #34

HIGH-lee-larry-us. Bennyboy Nov 2013 #37

The Accident countryjake Nov 2013 #46

LOL-- yep, happens EVERY day.... mike_c Dec 2013 #80

LOL! Th1onein Nov 2013 #45

And waits and waits... pangaia Dec 2013 #77

I am sorry but NO intoxicant page of coins Nov 2013 #13

There's no test for smoking during/just before driving. The test covers 4+ weeks before. nt Romulox Nov 2013 #17

Yes, and I understand that THC is stored in the body for a long time. page of coins Nov 2013 #19

No one but you is advocating for driving while impaired. The debate centers around whether or not Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #22

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What if they only ride bicycles? uppityperson Nov 2013 #27

bicycles are no Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #48

That isn't advocating driving while impaired. He just made an off-hand comment... Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #31

Thats why I only toke behind the Library! William769 Nov 2013 #32

Additionally, no one can point to any incident/accident where it is proved that it Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #33

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The problem with legislation of this type is that it can't work. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #50

Never got high huh? Bennyboy Nov 2013 #38

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It helps me drive, quite simply.... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #44

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true. nt DesertFlower Dec 2013 #105

A split second seveneyes Nov 2013 #41

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Cannabis is NOT an "intoxicant" TheSarcastinator Nov 2013 #63

i agree. nt DesertFlower Dec 2013 #104

Test for impairment, not for metabolites. it's pretty simple. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #15

This shouldn't be hard. hollowdweller Nov 2013 #29

Sanjay Gupta in the special WEED Bennyboy Nov 2013 #39

Yes. Inexperienced weed users shouldn't toke and drive RainDog Dec 2013 #94

B-I-N-G-O! Bennyboy Dec 2013 #100

more Reefer Madness that is not true. TeamPooka Nov 2013 #49

There is NO weed today Politicalboi Nov 2013 #51

there most certainly is weed that can be smelled double bagged PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #52

Is this parody? NoOneMan Nov 2013 #54

The various aromas are from terpenes RainDog Dec 2013 #98

Im 100 times the driver on pot than I am on nicotine NoOneMan Nov 2013 #53

What the article doesn't say about anti-histamines Pitagoras Nov 2013 #55

Can you offer a citation for that claim? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #56

Yeah Pitagoras Nov 2013 #58

I am much more concerned walkingman Nov 2013 #57

I drive slower and more cautious when stoned. I B Calm Nov 2013 #59

Could it be that you drive more cautiously because you know you're at a higher risk? Pitagoras Nov 2013 #61

Yeah, one problem with that TheSarcastinator Nov 2013 #62

The "research" you cited isn't even peer-reviewed Pitagoras Dec 2013 #66

Have you ever drove stoned? B Calm Dec 2013 #70

That's Right: it is an Ongoing Study TheSarcastinator Dec 2013 #74

Man, you shouldn't have given me that first link Pitagoras Dec 2013 #75

Marijuana advocates say that because it isn't politically palatable to say... Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #85

You can test positive for pot for 30 days after smoking it. B Calm Dec 2013 #109

I know. And the levels of THC in the blood would be minuscule after 30 days Pitagoras Dec 2013 #111

Utterly meaningless. Cannabis in the blood is no indication of impairment eridani Dec 2013 #113

All I know is OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #64

RE Anomalism Dec 2013 #83

I agree it shouldn't be OwnedByCats Dec 2013 #91

Nice first post. Is that your professional opinion or are you just winging it? bluesbassman Dec 2013 #96

teh crimes is not listed as driving while drunk DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #65

Doesn't surprise me in the least Bohunk68 Dec 2013 #67

I was once in a car on a cross-country trip Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #68

No driving under the influence. Full stop. Veruca Salt Dec 2013 #69

The biggest risk from Marijuana is making really shitty music seem good Major Nikon Dec 2013 #71

bath salts....nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #72

OK, one other explanation Major Nikon Dec 2013 #73

Really? How about you provide some of your stuff so you can be critiqued? At ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #79

Here you go Major Nikon Dec 2013 #90

this whole debate demonstrates the damage that alcohol abuse has done to society.... mike_c Dec 2013 #76

Amen. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #78

You missed this study: wercal Dec 2013 #82

did you read it? mike_c Dec 2013 #87

Well the bar has been moved wercal Dec 2013 #95

B-I-N-G-O! Bennyboy Dec 2013 #84

I really can't believe what I am reading on this thread wercal Dec 2013 #81

How about we punish drivers who actually impaired? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #86

Instead of comparing it to cell phone driving, why don't you compare it to sober driving? Pitagoras Dec 2013 #92

Last I checked, texting while driving is illegal in my state wercal Dec 2013 #99

Reading the actual study, they didn't omit drunk drivers.... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #88

Well I guess a laughing smiley ends the debate wercal Dec 2013 #97

You're wrong. That's a review of studies, not "the actual study", as if it were only one Pitagoras Dec 2013 #107

I would prefer that people don't toke and drive within a 2 hour period RainDog Dec 2013 #106

How can there be a debate�you drive while under the influence of pot you shouldn't drive and... Tikki Dec 2013 #101

there's no way i could smoke pot DesertFlower Dec 2013 #103