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48. Too bad we're not in another country, huh?

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 03:59 AM

Dec 2013

We're the only country that prices medicine the way we do, and it's an absolute disaster. Medicare is cheaper than smaller private pools, but OTOH even Medicare pays vastly more for the same procedures, equipment, and drugs than insurance regimes, public or private, pay in other countries.

For that matter, if treatments were cheap enough that Medicare's budget wasn't a worry, they'd be cheap enough for normal people to afford them anyways...

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Paying for high deductables, low benefits, and huge copays is not "insurance". [View all] Stinky The Clown Nov 2013 OP

I like your... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #1

For a period of about 3 years I did just that. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #2

Ms. Toad is saying something very important. SheilaT Nov 2013 #3

Although what Ms toad says is true, there is not one other industrialized truedelphi Nov 2013 #4

Under ACA . . . aggiesal Nov 2013 #14

You are not too familiar with the games the hospital accounting people play. truedelphi Nov 2013 #22

A cynic, . . . aggiesal Nov 2013 #41

This chart is written by data provided by a government agency, an agency truedelphi Nov 2013 #45

I'm not happy with ACA . . . aggiesal Dec 2013 #47

Oh for Pete's sake,I would not find fault with Single Payer Universal HC. truedelphi Dec 2013 #51

yes that was another lie Doctor_J Nov 2013 #17

Rings of some truth. Roselma Nov 2013 #5

Hope for change. And not the kind that rattles around in your pocket! blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #6

What's better? nessa Nov 2013 #7

Howeer, some of us keep looking for an explanation of how the only truedelphi Nov 2013 #8

It didn't stop Karen Ignagni either solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #9

Groan. Yes, I remember that woman. truedelphi Nov 2013 #23

Depends on whether you have $10,000 laying around or not Fumesucker Nov 2013 #25

And they probably don't have and extra $800- $1000 a month laying around either. nessa Nov 2013 #37

"if you have an extra $800 - $1000 a month"... bunnies Nov 2013 #43

That's the point. nessa Nov 2013 #44

Must be nice to be able to have 10 grand in cash to spend... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #26

If you only make a little more than $20K, you won't be expected to pay pnwmom Dec 2013 #53

It is for catastrophic illness.. pipoman Nov 2013 #10

Excellent! SoapBox Nov 2013 #11

I'd argue that this is exactly what insurance is Major Nikon Nov 2013 #12

Insurance is risk management. WowSeriously Nov 2013 #13

I never claimed to be disappointed Major Nikon Nov 2013 #15

It sounded like you were disappointed, but that was clearly my interpretation. WowSeriously Nov 2013 #18

My point was the "insurance" part of ACA is something different Major Nikon Nov 2013 #24

"Insurance companies are a lousy way to finance health care" stillwaiting Nov 2013 #33

If a person claims something is so that he/she knows to be false, then Skip Intro Nov 2013 #16

I'm worried about my group plan at work, from what I've been told mynaturalrights Nov 2013 #20

Come January we'll shift to the "You can keep your doctor" part of the equation. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #36

He should not have said period. maced666 Nov 2013 #19

Does that even matter anymore what the President said? mynaturalrights Nov 2013 #21

Krugman says the ACA is even more wildly successful than its most ardent advocates expected Fumesucker Nov 2013 #27

I went without insurance for 8 years (2002-2010) because I would not pay bemildred Nov 2013 #28

And it is certainly NOT HEALTHCARE! hobbit709 Nov 2013 #29

It's precisely "insurance". What it's not is prepaid medical care. Recursion Nov 2013 #30

especially when there are wedding parties to drone bomb 8000 miles away solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #31

++ FarCenter Nov 2013 #32

If it costs too much, you should inform Canada and the UK of that fact! Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #34

Exactly right. meaculpa2011 Nov 2013 #35

actually pre-paid medical care, as you call it, costs far less Doctor_J Dec 2013 #46

Too bad we're not in another country, huh? Recursion Dec 2013 #48

So public HC is cheaper everywhere except ere, where it's more expensive? Doctor_J Dec 2013 #49

It can't, but it's only a part of the problem Recursion Dec 2013 #50

If health care costs were lower, the insurance would treestar Nov 2013 #38

he didn't lie. Sheri Nov 2013 #39

There are plenty of things wrong with the ACA, bvar22 Nov 2013 #40

Corporate scam. woo me with science Nov 2013 #42

The ACA provides for full benefits, not low benefits. pnwmom Dec 2013 #52

And *that* was my point. It was aimed at ACA critics. Stinky The Clown Dec 2013 #54

Without any context your aim was unclear. pnwmom Dec 2013 #55