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Proud Liberal Dem

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80. I would also add
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:18 PM
Mar 2012

that Bill Maher is an "equal opportunity offender". He is no ideologue and he ridicules all kinds of people for all kinds of reasons, including President Obama and Democrats in general.

Whatever offensive and/or misogynistic comments Maher might have made were likely one-off remarks and I can think of anything in particular Maher has ever said that is, in any way, equivalent to what Rush said yesterday, said today, or will say tomorrow.

There is absolutely NO equivalence whatsoever between Bill Maher, Ed Schultz, Michael Moore, et. al on the left and Rush Limbaugh other scions of hate on the right.

I really think that we need to get away, both on the left and the right, from "getting the vapors" over one-off remarks made by public figures because, frankly, everybody is going to say something stupid, sexist, bigoted, off-color, politically incorrect (at least could be interpreted by somebody as such) and I hate to see people's careers automatically ruined over them or from being used to damage somebody else by association. I think that, in most cases, if somebody makes an offensive remark and upsets somebody, they should pony up with an apology and then everybody should just move on. This doesn't really apply to the current situation with Rush, particularly since he has been unrepentant about his comments (re: Sandra Fluke) but in general people need to relax a little bit IMHO. The best way IMHO to counter bad speech is with more good/better speech (and to vote with our wallets as well).

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He's not even a Democrat. nt tridim Mar 2012 #1
in re Yellow Submarine Mar 2012 #2
he needs to go ASAP. certainot Mar 2012 #59
More important: Maher is constantly defending womens' rights on his show. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #3
I thought at one time he had emilyg Mar 2012 #25
Ah, I see. Like that "Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990" prank. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #28
For the record, that lawsuit was tossed, Hissyspit Mar 2012 #30
Is google right-wing? emilyg Mar 2012 #32
Defends womens' rights?! That's a hoot! CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #35
Had you watched his shows, you would've known it's not a "hoot" at all. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #37
Well, now I see why you like him so much CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #48
Sticks and stones... DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #55
Oh, some of your very best friends are Muslims, I'm sure CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #76
No, darling, you're looking away from the real issue in order to appear PC... DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #83
You really shouldn't get your information from Bill Maher CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #87
If what I write is "bigotry", then why don't you debunk what I wrote? DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #88
Boy, you really don't get it CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #90
Like I said before, it's not a case of "some of them" or "a few"... DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #92
Thank you. I used to watch emilyg Mar 2012 #66
Watch. Listen. Pay Attention. Then Judge ProfessorGAC Mar 2012 #47
You really need to take your own advice CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #53
Ah, now I see appal_jack Mar 2012 #62
That's some ally you got there CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #71
asshole /= oppressor appal_jack Mar 2012 #79
I assure you one can be both CrawlingChaos Mar 2012 #82
When did Bill Maher ever suggest we should "keep those bitches in line"? DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #84
I also missed when he spent 3 days vilifying a woman for things she never said Sparkly Mar 2012 #4
In addition... GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #9
I've been saying this on every post about this for the last week now. Initech Mar 2012 #5
but without false equivalency Johonny Mar 2012 #6
i have yet to hear anyone argue that maher is. i have yet to hear anyone argue that maher is seabeyond Mar 2012 #7
So Limbaugh is the titular head of the GOP? DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #8
Jayne Mansfield in Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter.... WCGreen Mar 2012 #36
Hah! DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #40
You are now as misogynist as Bill Maher. Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #41
I'm just sourcing a cultural icon..... WCGreen Mar 2012 #49
The squeel she makes in that movie would be an awesome ringtone. Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #64
It's one of my favorite movies.... WCGreen Mar 2012 #70
Bill Maher's equivalent on the right is exboyfil Mar 2012 #10
Giving A Million to Obama Pac otohara Mar 2012 #11
You Have Missed The Point By Light Year ProfessorGAC Mar 2012 #50
Has anyone suggested he be boycotted? loyalsister Mar 2012 #12
I have the answer Yellow Submarine Mar 2012 #14
Is that your suggestion? loyalsister Mar 2012 #15
The GOP have given Maher a lot of material to work with. railsback Mar 2012 #13
Misogynists shouldn't be headlining Democratic fundraisers, as Maher is scheduled to do in Alabama Dems to Win Mar 2012 #16
Thank you. emilyg Mar 2012 #22
Oh please, as if Maher doesn't "respect women as full citizens"... DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #38
R#11 & K, n/t UTUSN Mar 2012 #17
Absolutely! ljm2002 Mar 2012 #18
actually, no one in broadcasting gets a pass from me. There is no acceptable assholes on this subjec roguevalley Mar 2012 #19
+x100 emilyg Mar 2012 #23
Maher Isn't Broadcast Yavin4 Mar 2012 #26
unless cable isn't broadcast then you are right but he is. I don't also care where he uses it roguevalley Mar 2012 #33
Intellectually Convenient ProfessorGAC Mar 2012 #51
Maher didn't go on nine hour tirades DearAbby Mar 2012 #20
Once and for all...............Maher emilyg Mar 2012 #21
Not Defending Maher Yavin4 Mar 2012 #24
Except that he's not. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #39
I would just like to add... Volaris Mar 2012 #27
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #29
People are desperate to get Gush out of the headlines Rex Mar 2012 #31
Anyone who buys into any equivalence between the two is smoking crack...or taking too much oxy. nt MADem Mar 2012 #34
Or on the GOP payroll. Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #42
Yep--on the payroll AND taking Oxy! nt MADem Mar 2012 #43
On the payroll AND taking Oxy AND vacationing in the DR with 29 pills of someone else's Viagra! nt Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #45
Heh heh--think the boy was doing a bit more than golfing... MADem Mar 2012 #54
And the point of this red herring is ...? HuckleB Mar 2012 #44
The Point of it is Yavin4 Mar 2012 #46
Did anyone say he was the equivalent of Limbaugh? HuckleB Mar 2012 #67
To Dispel The Red Herring ProfessorGAC Mar 2012 #52
At first I thought you were being humorous. HuckleB Mar 2012 #68
So it's ok for him to be a sexist pig... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #56
Sigh. I will Try This Again Yavin4 Mar 2012 #57
It's not a "meme"... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #58
There Is Not Enough Time nor Energy Yavin4 Mar 2012 #60
Ok lemme check... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #61
Like It Or Not, People Have A Right To Be Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Anti-Semtic, etc. Yavin4 Mar 2012 #63
Blah. Blah. Blah. HuckleB Mar 2012 #69
And You Are Being Deliberately Obtuse Yavin4 Mar 2012 #73
Except that he's not, yes. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #85
Do you know what 'titular' means? RZM Mar 2012 #65
Rush Was Named An Honorary Member of the U.S. House of Rep. in 1994 Yavin4 Mar 2012 #75
Sorry if I came off as rude RZM Mar 2012 #81
I didn't think your post was rude or snarky or arrogant. It was accurate onenote Mar 2012 #89
best rationalization yet for calling a woman a c*** Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #72
Best Deliberate Mis-Reading of My Post Yavin4 Mar 2012 #74
Once words like 'slut' and 'c***' are tossed out, there are completely equal. Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #78
No, they're not equal. One is a potty-mouth; the other is a misogynyst. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #86
"titular".........libs alway breaking it down to sex and body parts Demonaut Mar 2012 #77
I would also add Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #80
Rush is not titular, either, he's de facto librechik Mar 2012 #91
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