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Jesus Malverde

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Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:27 PM Dec 2013

It's not the morphine, it's the size of the cage: Rat Park experiment upturns conventional wisdom [View all]

It's not the morphine, it's the size of the cage: Rat Park experiment upturns conventional wisdom about addiction

We all learned this in DARE class. About the rats in a cage who can self-administer morphine who get addicted to the stuff, and then just hit that lever until they die. A seemingly keystone argument in the war against drugs. Professor Avram Goldstein, the creator of that study, has said: "A rat addicted to heroin is not rebelling against society, is not a victim of socioeconomic circumstances, is not a product of a dysfunctional family, and is not a criminal. The rat's behavior is simply controlled by the action of heroin (actually morphine, to which heroin is converted in the body) on its brain." So, it's the drug, and its addictive control. Surely we must eradicate drugs as a result!

But there's another model out there by researcher Bruce Alexander of Simon Fraser University called Rat Park.

Alexander's hypothesis was that drugs do not cause addiction, and that the apparent addiction to opiate drugs commonly observed in laboratory rats exposed to it is attributable to their living conditions, and not to any addictive property of the drug itself. He told the Canadian Senate in 2001 that prior experiments in which laboratory rats were kept isolated in cramped metal cages, tethered to a self-injection apparatus, show only that "severely distressed animals, like severely distressed people, will relieve their distress pharmacologically if they can."

To test his hypothesis, Alexander built Rat Park, an 8.8 m2 (95 sq ft) housing colony, 200 times the square footage of a standard laboratory cage. There were 16–20 rats of both sexes in residence, an abundance of food, balls and wheels for play, and enough space for mating and raising litters. The results of the experiment appeared to support his hypothesis. Rats who had been forced to consume morphine hydrochloride for 57 consecutive days were brought to Rat Park and given a choice between plain tap water and water laced with morphine. For the most part, they chose the plain water. "Nothing that we tried," Alexander wrote, "... produced anything that looked like addiction in rats that were housed in a reasonably normal environment." Control groups of rats isolated in small cages consumed much more morphine in this and several subsequent experiments.


So, if Rat Park is to be believed, drug addiction is a situation that arises from poor socioeconomic conditions. From literally being a rat in a cage. If you're a rat in a park, you'd rather hang out with your friends and explore the world around you.

http://sub.garrytan.com/its-not-the-morphine-its-the-size-of-the-cage-rat-park-experiment-upturns-conventional-wisdom-about-addiction

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130910-drug-addiction-the-complex-truth/all

http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comics_en/rat-park/
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Hope this gets some attention FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #1
Surely it will from those who need to bury it rurallib Dec 2013 #8
Interesting point. calimary Dec 2013 #50
And yet, those that have it all can be addicted erronis Dec 2013 #77
I wonder what you'd have to do to rats to make them live like fat-cats FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #78
note that these rats "have it all" in the form of healthy relationships magical thyme Dec 2013 #80
Amazing. Big K n R n/t n2doc Dec 2013 #2
Forced isolation isn't the same as self-inflicted isolation. tridim Dec 2013 #3
Yes, maybe addiction treatment should focus more on community integration than Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #7
the science says that 5-10% of us are addicts and don't can't use iona funcitonal manner elehhhhna Dec 2013 #18
would you agree that NJCher Dec 2013 #44
too much money and too little imagination is a BIG PROBLEM, also, elehhhhna Dec 2013 #79
The fact that it's illegal... freebrew Dec 2013 #61
K&R (I recommend looking at the comic link... very cool) nt SalviaBlue Dec 2013 #4
Fascinating malaise Dec 2013 #5
Fascinating. nt stevenleser Dec 2013 #6
This is intriguing. Chemisse Dec 2013 #9
Sad to say the paradise that is northern California is full of heroin and meth addicts. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #10
Doesn't that match the results of the study? Maedhros Dec 2013 #29
"economic isolation/desperation" bvar22 Dec 2013 #31
Not really. Rats are, for the most part, far more trustworthy & greatful than people. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #33
I'm talking about the northern counties, humboldt, del norte, shasta, trinity. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #34
Humboldt - Marijuana growing capital of the west coast. SharonAnn Dec 2013 #37
It's more about coastal vs. inland dreamnightwind Dec 2013 #54
Thinking about it, it makes sense Revanchist Dec 2013 #11
This is fascinating. Chellee Dec 2013 #12
It certainly calls into question the methodology of using social animals in isolation in studies..nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #14
I think if you take any animal... Chellee Dec 2013 #19
Nice points.....nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #58
Very interesting k/r fishwax Dec 2013 #13
Great find. K&R LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #15
I challenged a "counselor" that my former employer made us listen to on this eridani Dec 2013 #16
This info's been around since the late 70's/ Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #21
FYI, Nixon started the official War on Drugs... truebluegreen Dec 2013 #40
Excellent reminder.............nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #59
of course the humans never took into consideration the suffering G_j Dec 2013 #17
More like the WOO of science...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #22
"the woo of science"??? Duppers Dec 2013 #51
gives new meaning to...... Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #20
Hard to believe it's almost been 20 years since that song came out. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #24
They look so young! been awhile...... lunasun Dec 2013 #27
I heard about this study robbob Dec 2013 #23
Seemingly no different than alcohol dbackjon Dec 2013 #25
On a somewhat related note ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #26
so little insight NJCher Dec 2013 #45
There is a reason why ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #47
Dr. Gabor Maté concurs RufusTFirefly Dec 2013 #28
I like that attunement concept. Good Reads. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #32
You're welcome! Thanks for starting the ball rolling! n/t RufusTFirefly Dec 2013 #41
I'm glad you brought this out, I had no idea. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #30
Most interesting. Thanks for sharing. Auggie Dec 2013 #35
Brilliant and quite convincing. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #36
It's conceivable behavior has multiple causes? DirkGently Dec 2013 #38
I read this a couple of months ago RainDog Dec 2013 #39
Excellent post. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #60
thanks RainDog Dec 2013 #64
Also from 30 years ago, alcohol for pigs. Festivito Dec 2013 #42
poor socio-economic conditions BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #43
Decades later there are still replicability problems Recursion Dec 2013 #46
That really makes you go "hmm". loudsue Dec 2013 #48
Well, now we know how to treat addicted rats. Coyotl Dec 2013 #49
... but of course Congress will refuse to pay for it. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2013 #71
Are rats smart enough to know the difference between tap water and water laced with morphine? wickerwoman Dec 2013 #52
If they didn't, you'd expect them to choose which to drink randomly. jeff47 Dec 2013 #62
You'd have to control for the flavor as well. wickerwoman Dec 2013 #66
Confirms anecdotal evidence from homeless people. Laelth Dec 2013 #53
Treat their lives, not their addictions dreamnightwind Dec 2013 #55
It's also how MLK's thinking evolved regarding social justice RainDog Dec 2013 #70
A real ''Quantum'' leap in thinking. DeSwiss Dec 2013 #56
Just incredible! nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #57
Apparently the rodents in the natural environment were happy riversedge Dec 2013 #63
I believe it was a combination of natural environment and connectedness/role to/in community. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #65
This is borne out in clinical practice in hospitals, too Warpy Dec 2013 #67
Thanks for that info. My daughter is currently taking lots of morphine deurbano Dec 2013 #69
She might become dependent on it for a while Warpy Dec 2013 #73
interesting RainDog Dec 2013 #75
Who'da thunk it? QUALITY of life matters! AlbertCat Dec 2013 #68
Who could have guessed that stress and depression would cause addiction Rex Dec 2013 #72
Interesting. Bookmarking for later. geardaddy Dec 2013 #74
That's very interesting but...How do you explain Auntie Bush Dec 2013 #76
human brain chemistry is not the same as rat brain chemistry. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #81
this study was done to test another, earlier study RainDog Dec 2013 #82
Good points, all. Was not aware of the prior study, and the confined space seems geek tragedy Dec 2013 #83
this study calls the issue of physical addiction into question RainDog Dec 2013 #84
With respect, the issue of physical addiction and withdrawal symptoms is more than the addict's geek tragedy Dec 2013 #85
with respect - I wasn't making an all or nothing statement RainDog Dec 2013 #86
We are in agreement. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #87
Chemical addiction and behavioral addiction RainDog Dec 2013 #88
Obvious differences between chemical ingestion and behavioral addictions. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #89
except the one study doesn't support the assumption RainDog Dec 2013 #90
"one study" is hardly dispositive in this area nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #91
yet it's the only one that has been done RainDog Dec 2013 #92
I did not say that there was support, only that I would not be surprised geek tragedy Dec 2013 #93
peace to you RainDog Dec 2013 #94
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