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grantcart

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46. I don't understand what your outrage is about.

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:41 PM

Mar 2012

Of course you can commit a crime in another country without ever leaving your own.

You can commit a crime in another state without ever leaving yours.

You can commit a crime outside of your house without ever leaving your house.

Mail fraud laws were designed specifically to make sure that people who committed crimes from a distance could not use their proximity as an excuse to avoid punishment.

Just because you didn't physically go there doesn't mean that you didn't commit a crime there.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 OP

But American corporations malaise Mar 2012 #1

This is the problem with the illusion that the U.S. is the superpower that can do no wrong. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #2

The US will eventually have significant competition as a superpower. I wonder how the US will RKP5637 Mar 2012 #10

exactly. Some countries want to hold Bush Administration personal responible for War Crimes Justice wanted Mar 2012 #12

If the server was here then they broke the law here TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #3

Would you agree with it if you Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #9

And will eventually just send small drones after people in other countries striking them down as RKP5637 Mar 2012 #13

If I was hacking it wouldn't be my call to "agree" with going to face trial for MY ACTIONS TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #14

Except for the fact that they are lads, not girls, I agree with your commentary. MADem Mar 2012 #38

Good catch. Not sure why I thought it was 2 girls. Thanks for the correction. nt TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #40

It's those Gaelic names--they read like phlegm, some of them, sound much nicer spoken. MADem Mar 2012 #45

How do our own laws apply to nationals in their own countries. RC Mar 2012 #43

The courts will be challenged with these kinds of questions treestar Mar 2012 #4

So...if I hack your computer from a country where hacking is legal jeff47 Mar 2012 #5

LOL TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #7

And Now Summary Executions are the rage. bahrbearian Mar 2012 #6

Those are two of the FBI, et. al., LULZSEC hackers? MADem Mar 2012 #8

My problem with this is we Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #15

The Delta Force isn't going to swoop in via Galway Bay and spirit these lads away. MADem Mar 2012 #20

How so? alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #28

Nothing about extrordinary rendition in this article. JohnnyRingo Mar 2012 #31

If the hackers did nothing wrong, let them make their case???? Presumption of innocence burden of Vincardog Mar 2012 #26

What are you talking about? TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #30

I was talking about the authoritarian attitude displayed by the post. Did you read mine? Vincardog Mar 2012 #36

Yeah, what authoritarian attitude are you referring to? TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #39

Oh, please--the government has them dead to rights. They know where the hacks are coming from. MADem Mar 2012 #33

Going to Italy to find hackers. Why not go to NYC and tsuki Mar 2012 #11

Turn about is fair play. If murder was illegal in Canada or Mexico or any civilized country, Vincardog Mar 2012 #16

Why? Did those guys commit murder in those jurisdictions? TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #18

So what do you think the consequences of their actions should be? Throd Mar 2012 #17

Imagine if Iran demanded extradition for American citizens criticizing the Ayatollah here in the US Hugabear Mar 2012 #19

What does "criticizing" have to do with this case? MADem Mar 2012 #24

Ireland has an extradition treaty with us TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #25

Iran can apply for extradition, but it doesn't have to be accepted. JohnnyRingo Mar 2012 #29

They hacked a server that was in the United States. How is the indictment unreasonable? NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #21

I don't necessarily agree with this policy because I need more info, but.... JohnnyRingo Mar 2012 #22

It's necessary to call them criminals in order to justify the future drone attacks... saras Mar 2012 #23

What? TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #27

Look out below in Dingle! Mind yer ass in Donegal! Heads up in Dublin! MADem Mar 2012 #34

The legal extradition procedure appears to have been followed here. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #32

How do you feel about mailing anthrax from Ireland? cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #35

In a saner world, we would leave it to the Irish authorities to Cleita Mar 2012 #37

They ARE dealing with it--and they have no problem with our help on this score, either. MADem Mar 2012 #42

Or, operating drones from the U.S. to Afghanistan to kill a bunch of people. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #44

In the case of Afghanistan, we're on the side of the AFGHAN government. MADem Mar 2012 #47

They committed a crime in the US. alphafemale Mar 2012 #41

I don't understand what your outrage is about. grantcart Mar 2012 #46