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Munificence

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9. The ones in more
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:52 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:26 PM - Edit history (1)

"professional looking clothes" are typically the bosses and you do the dealing through them for what they need paid for a job. He then is the supervisor of the number of guys. You agree on an amount/day and he will most likely bring his entire crew as it is based on the entire job not an hourly wage for each. You will not deal with the individuals, but instead their crew leader and pay him a sum for the job done, what he pays his guys is really never known.

Most skilled trade undocumented immigrants will typically work for $300 a day of which they will bring their helper and take $200 for themselves and give $100 to the helper. A day is typically 8-10 hours long, so the skilled trade guy will make $20/hr cash and his helper will make $10.00/hr cash for 10 hours worth of work.

$300 a day is pretty common for skilled craftsman and his helper and a lot of time most jobs will be 3-10 days long.

Who is hiring them? I really hate to say this as I will probably get flamed, but it's most general contractors needing help. I've worked this field in the past and to actually get a young guy to show up on time, give you 8 hours worth of work and pay him $10.00/hr is not gonna happen here in the States. That type of work is "to good for them" and most are pretty lazy. They will not go into in a sense that "If I learn these things over the period of a few years, show up to work, do my job and learn that I will be making $20.00 an hour in a year or so" and will get regular raises along the route to $20.00 and hour+. If they learn the trade and become proficient at it and can work on their own then there is no reason why they can't be making $30.00 an hour in 3-5 years.

The trades in the U.S are hurting for qualified people. Our young guys simply refuse to work for $10.00/hr starting out and put in the time to learn a trade (even though they are "green" and absolutely know nothing as it takes 6 months to get a clue). If you look at it like an "education" over the 2 years you are a helper then it's a really good deal as you will never go without having work on some level. Nope the guys want to start at $20.00/hr, lay out all night drunk, show up late and maybe put in 3-4 hours worth of work. The Latino's will roll in give you 110% all day every day and make anywhere from $1000.00 - $500 a week in cash.

Just trying to show you what I have seen, your mileage may vary.






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How do day laborers work? [View all] Prism Dec 2013 OP
I see them too, across from Holder's Country Kitchen in Cupertino. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #1
Thank you for that answer! n/t Prism Dec 2013 #10
of course it is illegal Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #17
It's all under the table. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2013 #2
It's pretty simple, actually Glitterati Dec 2013 #3
That's another thing I was wondering Prism Dec 2013 #11
Yeah, the day laborers like to negotiate Glitterati Dec 2013 #15
Why would they work any differently than straight laborers? jberryhill Dec 2013 #4
They're hired by the day by contractors Warpy Dec 2013 #5
I've never seen hassling cops here, either Prism Dec 2013 #12
They might, but around here they gather in the lots of big box Warpy Dec 2013 #24
No, it's cash only BainsBane Dec 2013 #6
Oh yeah, given Prism Dec 2013 #13
Yes, of course it is BainsBane Dec 2013 #27
Here's how it works from what I've observed. AngryOldDem Dec 2013 #7
Exploitation Prism Dec 2013 #14
How? Manual labour, cash in hand. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #8
I gotcha. Prism Dec 2013 #18
The ones in more Munificence Dec 2013 #9
No judgement Prism Dec 2013 #19
I know people with a truck full of tools and 30+ years in the trades who don't make that much Fumesucker Dec 2013 #32
The only day workers I knew were golf caddies. Cleita Dec 2013 #16
That was one of my questions Prism Dec 2013 #20
I'll probably get flamed for this also Munificence Dec 2013 #21
Very hard. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #22
I imagine Prism Dec 2013 #23
These guys Munificence Dec 2013 #25
Really, contracting firms would ~never~ exploit someone they had an advantage over Fumesucker Dec 2013 #33
And all Contracting firms Munificence Dec 2013 #35
Read "the Jungle" by Upton Sinclare. You will get it. OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2013 #26
In Seattle we have the Millionairs Club HeiressofBickworth Dec 2013 #28
San Francisco has a day laborer program which is, thank goodness Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #30
As the OP described HeiressofBickworth Dec 2013 #31
Thirsting for Justice - Vayan al Norte DreamGypsy Dec 2013 #29
I've been on both sides of the equation Recursion Dec 2013 #34
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