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In reply to the discussion: Has DU Turned The Corner On The JFK CT BS? Apparently So. [View all]Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)The one labeled for lazy, unscholarly folk who accept what they are told by the authority they adhere to, without question, and belittle those who actually study and learn the facts.
And Lone Nutters, the facts are against you in every respect. All the evidence to convict Oswald proffered by the Dallas Police, District Attorney, and the FBI was poppycock.
Eisenhower appeared on TV on November 22, 1963 and said the American people would not be stampeded. They weren't. The Warren Commission tried, but failed horribly. Jim Haggerty, Eisenhower's press secretary, told CBS that there was no doubt that it was conspiracy to murder the President.
Believers in the Lone Nut with a Magic Bullet have let themselves be deceived. And I wonder how old they may be, because people who were alive at the time experienced that lies, the half-truths, the slippery stories that were true one minute and discarded the next. There were other people arrested that day. Their names weren't taken down. Because ... about six months had gone into preparing Oswald to be the patsy and his handlers in the CIA paraded him around to establish communist credentials. But he didn't do the shooting, didn't fire a gun, didn't shoot Tippett, and didn't go into the theater without paying. The guy who didn't pay went into the balcony. After Lee Oswald was arrested on the main floor, after going around and sitting by various people (looking for his contact?) he was brought out the front door of the theater to great fanfare. Later a man was brought down from the Balcony is a white t-shirt, was taken out the back into the alley where he was placed in a police car. People in the alley thought they had witnessed the arrest of Oswald. The man from the balcony was never brought in and booked for anything.
Read the Warren Commission. Earlene Roberts, Oswald's housekeeper at the S. Beckley rooming house, not only said that Oswald came in and quickly put on a jacket and left, she also testified that while Oswald was in his room, a police car pulled in front of the house and quickly honked twice -- tit-tit -- is how she described it. Why? And why didn't the lawyers on the commission pursue that juicy tidbit? There are a million questions in this rickety case that have never been answered, because there are no answers that wouldn't require the presence of at least a second gunman, if not a third.
You think that people like me are kooks? I think you deniers are a bunch of bullies who know nothing and are so condescending as to make me question your motives. Why do you feel this strongly about the case when you so adamantly deny the possibility of a conspiracy. A lot of brilliant people have believed in the impossibility of a lone nut acting alone - Bertrand Russell, for one.
Also, please disabuse yourself of this ridiculous that people who research the Warren Commission and the evidence in the Archives believe all the theories about a myriad of conspirators. That's BS. It was a CIA plot -- Dulles, Helms, Angleton put it together. The Joint Chiefs were in charge of the autopsy. The CIA and Chicago Mob were joined at the hip in the Western Hemisphere Division. Jack Ruby was a member of the Chicago outfit, he had been a gun-runner to Cuba, and he ran women, drugs and gambling with the Civellos and Campisis in Dallas. His top dancer at the Carousel, Jada Conforto, said Jack didn't like the Kennedys, especially Bobby. This was on TV and the videos are all out there.
All I needed to know the score is watch all the official documentaries last week. I've seen every video they showed, over and over. Except I've seen them in their entirety. When the video is snipped just at the point someone is going to do or say or show something that would be meaningful, I'm flabbergasted by the chutzpah. After all, there are millions of us --71% right now -- who don't believe a work of the Warren Commission.
I stand with those doubters like Commissioners Rep. Hale Boggs, Sen. Dick Russell and Sen. Cooper, and Lyndon Johnson. And apparently Earl Warren himself who had to be stiff-armed by LBJ to take the FBI report and issue it as the final verdict for the good of the country and to avoid 300 million people dying - or so he was persuaded, reluctantly.