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26. I'm sorry, but he did.

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:56 PM

Dec 2013

I have this peeve, I guess you'd call it. I cannot stand to see bullshit passed off as fact and other people just lap it up.

Obama said, during the selling phase before the bill was passed, that if you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. He knew it wasn't so, but said it anyway. No matter how you slice that, it is a lie.

Claiming something, promising something, as true that you know is false is a lie. It is the very definition of a lie.

Let's be honest here.

So far millions have been forced off of the plans they had. Tens of millions more will probably be forced off of the plans they had when the employer mandate kicks in. That clearly is the reason the employer mandate was pushed back until after the '14 elections - to minimize the effect of that reality in terms of votes at the polls.

Peddling a known falsehood as a truth is a lie.

Sorry, but that's what it is.

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Here comes trouble... Obama did not lie. [View all] Turbineguy Dec 2013 OP

You do understand the maturation of how that came to be, right? joeglow3 Dec 2013 #1

Yes. I think so. Turbineguy Dec 2013 #2

Sadly, you are wrong joeglow3 Dec 2013 #3

Nothing in your link says he's wrong... gcomeau Dec 2013 #4

Obama lied....and I have ZERO problem with it joeglow3 Dec 2013 #6

Glad you have no problem with something that didn't happen. gcomeau Dec 2013 #8

Then why did he need to extend for one year something that was already good forever? joeglow3 Dec 2013 #9

Are you not paying attention? gcomeau Dec 2013 #10

And where is your evidence that the 5M dropped fit this category joeglow3 Dec 2013 #11

The law. gcomeau Dec 2013 #12

You throw practicality out the window joeglow3 Dec 2013 #16

No, I don't. gcomeau Dec 2013 #17

SO ??? Just because people were in a plan for 3+ years doesn't prove that they weren't bluestate10 Dec 2013 #15

5 is not 5 million. truebluegreen Dec 2013 #27

'Only the most obtuse of idiots' Whisp Dec 2013 #13

Dull has more perspicacity than blind . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #34

" Ever " isn't within in minutes . Obtuse Idiots ? orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #30

No, "ever" is "ever". gcomeau Dec 2013 #31

A law that can't be enforced only protects villains. AND the 1st definition orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #32

Uh-huh... gcomeau Dec 2013 #35

The President did not lie. elleng Dec 2013 #19

I like the way you explain this ellen.. too many Cha Dec 2013 #21

You're welcome, Cha. elleng Dec 2013 #22

You're Welcome~ Cha Dec 2013 #23

P.S., elleng Dec 2013 #24

I'll go there now! Cha Dec 2013 #25

Basically correct but a 'nit,' elleng Dec 2013 #5

That could also be addressed to Post #6 who seems hell Cha Dec 2013 #7

See my #19! elleng Dec 2013 #20

Voted for him twice " Hell Bent " he was just orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #36

Why would you keep the old plan? nt bluestate10 Dec 2013 #14

I don't think I am going to keep my old plan. Turbineguy Dec 2013 #18

I'm sorry, but he did. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #26

Thank you. 840high Dec 2013 #28

Thank you, get in touch with gcomeau . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #33

And all you keep hearing lately is the lack of truthfulness from Obama. Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #29

Let me introduce you orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #37