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politicat

(9,810 posts)
45. I live in a town that got bit by Walmart twice.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:00 PM
Dec 2013

Our local economy has been pretty stable, and our general relative prosperity has masked some of the detriments, but our town has a chronic budget problem due to the (popularly opposed but City Council approved) sweetheart tax rebate that was the result of a Supercenter expansion.

When WM originally came into the community, it killed several long-term local businesses, including hardware, small clothiers, pharmacy, appliances and electrics. But that was before I lived here, so I don't know if that was a full-on WM attack or just the result of an evolving economy.

Thirteen years ago, the old building was about 20 years old and one of the smaller ones, but it was also right next door to a grocery store. The grocery wanted to move a block up the street, which would have given WM room to more than double their space. Instead of renovating the buildings, WM insisted that they be allowed to build a Supercenter up the road (in a place that is much harder to reach by bike, public transit or on foot) and threatened to move across the town line entirely if they didn't get the permission and a tax rebate. The public opposed it, but City Council caved to WM's demands and the sales tax rebate is still pinching, ten years later.

With the old Walmart empty, the grocery (an Albertson's), which was already struggling, collapsed and our retail district died, leaving us with two empty big boxes, Then three, four, five as other local businesses faltered, and almost no retail on the south end of town (which is the more working class part of town as it happens) and more importantly, no groceries. We do have a grocer 2 miles away, but it's uphill and the route can be difficult on foot or bike, especially in winter. There's also limited public transit to the north end of town (the bus route skirts it because the streets are narrow and there is no room for expansion).

Then 2008 hit. Interestingly, we had a complete replacement of the City Council, and we now have all but one of the buildings filled with semi-independent businesses (though it did require declaring the buildings blighted and eminent domaining a couple -- blighted they were, after several years of minimal or no maintenance) and the south end is doing better. (The last building is occupied, but it's occupied by a megachurch, which means it's mostly empty most of the week, and doesn't generate much traffic for the other businesses, but does generate significantly unpleasant traffic with little to negative economic benefit on Sundays. Negative because the city has to pay for traffic management and traffic infrastructure without getting paid for it, and the church membership isn't great about patronizing local businesses after services.) From what I hear, the WMSC is not doing all that well, because the other businesses now in the old buildings (a farm & hardware store, an outdoors store, a grocer, a dollar store and thrift) are doing much better in part as a community protest against the sweetheart tax deal, and in part because the stores on the south end of town are much easier to deal with, both in terms of traffic and accessibility and in customer service.

Having the Supercenter did hurt the local economy for several years; the best estimate I've seen says it killed 2.5 jobs for every 2 it created. It certainly hurt the most vulnerable people in the community by putting them into a food and retail desert. We've come back, but it took some draconian measures (blight and eminent domain are powerful tools that can be horribly misused) that were highly uncomfortable to use in service of the greater good. Better that we had never needed to use them at all; best that the community had never gotten into bed with WM in the first place and thereby put ourselves in a position where they could blackmail us.

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Walmart cares.. G_j Dec 2013 #1
Being employed by Wally World is by no means an end all. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #2
I hate them because they're assholes who don't care about their workers. n/t bitchkitty Dec 2013 #3
Like it or not they did start the $4 generic prescription idea. Many pharmacies jumped on board liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #4
There is one thing that they did that was good. Stuart G Dec 2013 #5
wonder how many local pharmacists were driven out of business rurallib Dec 2013 #18
Local pharmacists? oldhippie Dec 2013 #22
we have one in my town rurallib Dec 2013 #23
I'm sorry your friend's brother was driven out of business, but the price of liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #29
The last local pharmacies that I knew were driven out of business in the late 1970s and not 1monster Dec 2013 #30
Wal mart was here for a long time across the street from our local pharmacy dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #31
The low prices are an illusion. KamaAina Dec 2013 #6
* raises hand * "Ooh, ooh, I know this one!" NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #7
probably no different than the bank you choose to use mynaturalrights Dec 2013 #8
Their "Diet Mountain Lightning" Fla_Democrat Dec 2013 #9
My greatest complaint with Walmart is somewhat unique. Of course, I world wide wally Dec 2013 #10
This has been our experience as well. Old family small towns that are a shell LuckyLib Dec 2013 #16
Absolutely. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #46
Nope Glassunion Dec 2013 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author mynaturalrights Dec 2013 #15
the parking. loli phabay Dec 2013 #13
they let RV dwellers park in their lots - homeless or otherwise. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #14
OTR Truckers too. There's an APP to find out which ones allow Truckers to park overnight. n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #20
My major problem with Walmart is, evil spreads jmowreader Dec 2013 #17
The problem is really capitalism - TBF Dec 2013 #19
Something good about WalMart? Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #21
Logistically and environmentally speaking, moondust Dec 2013 #24
Lead retail industry in adopting and innovating sustainable building design cally Dec 2013 #25
Well they have proven PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #26
Everything I could need in one place CFLDem Dec 2013 #27
Those prices aren't as "reasonable" as you think... beac Dec 2013 #35
I don't really see any practical CFLDem Dec 2013 #38
Here's where I think you aren't understanding me... beac Dec 2013 #42
Prices may be just as high CFLDem Dec 2013 #48
Well, as long as we've established that your experience and convenience is beac Dec 2013 #54
For many people in rural communities Walmart is Purrfessor Dec 2013 #59
But it is NOT, by his/her own admission, the only option beac Dec 2013 #60
There's no wal-mart in my community, and the council refuses to approve one Scootaloo Dec 2013 #28
If Walmart shut down tomorrow, closing all its stores and firing all of its employees, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #32
Bad in the short term great for the long haul kydo Dec 2013 #51
the answers to your questions are...it depends. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #33
Walmart Doesn't Want You to See or Share This Video HowardCrane Dec 2013 #34
Hello ~ HowardCrane In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #40
Welcome to DU! beac Dec 2013 #43
IMO, no. nt City Lights Dec 2013 #36
I don't normally shop at Walmart, but found myself there last week after trying to find bluestate10 Dec 2013 #37
I like their store brand version of v-8 d_r Dec 2013 #39
If and when we finally sammythecat Dec 2013 #41
Absolutely. rrneck Dec 2013 #44
I live in a town that got bit by Walmart twice. politicat Dec 2013 #45
Excellent post - thanks for taking the time. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #49
Walmart sells their store brand cat food, large cans, for 70 cents, other places the joeybee12 Dec 2013 #47
Walmart has a larger selection of Kool-aid than any other store in my area el_bryanto Dec 2013 #50
Wal-Mart extracts wealth from communities, kills local businesses,... Orsino Dec 2013 #52
The Wal-Mart of today isn't Sam Walton's Wal-Mart SlipperySlope Dec 2013 #53
The only thing good to say about wally world was they have the best rats kydo Dec 2013 #55
They were the first to lower the prices on generic drugs Warpy Dec 2013 #56
Just remember it was only about 25 years age when BlueStreak Dec 2013 #57
Yes they do. Does it offset the bad that they do? WonderGrunion Dec 2013 #58
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