They had the benefits given them because of things their parents did, they took these (Reply #74)

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Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:08 PM

Egalitarian Thug (12,448 posts)

74. They had the benefits given them because of things their parents did, they took these

benefits to improve their own lives, and then pulled the ladder up behind them, denying them to their own kids. They got the free/low cost education, they grew up with access to health care, they grew up in cites and towns that had, supported, and recognized the value of the commons.

The Hippies were right, but not very many of them were ever really Hippies. Most of them were the arrogant, greedy, short-sighted fools that eagerly cut their own throats in the mistaken belief that they would never face any of the consequences of their actions. As adults, they did exactly what they did in their youth, take it, break it, and leave it for someone else to deal with. And as for the generation unfortunate enough to immediately follow them, well we got a lifetime of ill-used leftovers and the bills for their party,

Theirs is the generation that stopped looking up and turned inward.

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It seems like there's a lot of dislike and contempt for "boomers" from "millennials" [View all]	cali	Dec 2013	OP
We Boomers - As Parents - Were Supposed To Make Things Better For Our Children.....	global1	Dec 2013	#1
In some ways things are better and in other ways they aren't	cali	Dec 2013	#3
Economically, we will be the FIRST generation worse off than our parents	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#7
Don't Thank Me	RobinA	Dec 2013	#38
I am talking about as a whole	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#61
Then you picked the wrong topic big time.	ieoeja	Dec 2013	#72
Evidence would disagree with you	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#78
That graph just shows a point in time not the cause	upaloopa	Dec 2013	#88
Excellent post. Thanks. n/t	Laelth	Dec 2013	#94
Averages?	ieoeja	Dec 2013	#99
Mostly agree	rufus dog	Dec 2013	#220
Here's what you don't get.	upaloopa	Dec 2013	#82
Fine. But don't pat yourself on the back for all the good things you did	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#87
I take responsibility. Your the one who doesn't	upaloopa	Dec 2013	#91
I have not patted my generation on the back at all	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#92
Don't thank us--wages flat-lined starting in the early to mid-seventies,	truebluegreen	Dec 2013	#106
Correct on all counts	Art_from_Ark	Dec 2013	#212
Got news NO you won't be	azurnoir	Dec 2013	#176
We don't know that's going to be the case just yet	Hippo_Tron	Dec 2013	#186
Right now, we have seen negative growth	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#188
I'm a 2nd wave boomer and I can assure that my sisters and I all are worse off	magical thyme	Dec 2013	#227
Like I said earlier, there will be standard deviations on both sides	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#229
now you are abusing statistics.	magical thyme	Dec 2013	#231
"road to tow"	TroglodyteScholar	Dec 2013	#23
Define better.....	llmart	Dec 2013	#187
Good point but we were dealing with ending the war	flamingdem	Dec 2013	#207
Boomers became large proponents of republicanism, very few remained true to the vision	bluestate10	Dec 2013	#241
The boomers gave us Reaganism.	PeteSelman	Dec 2013	#2
no offense, but it's just rather stupid to be pissed at a whole generation	cali	Dec 2013	#5
Boomers pretty much split 50/50 on Reagan/Carter	Fumesucker	Dec 2013	#6
A 50-50 split between evil versus good is still a fucking failure. Why should Boomers	bluestate10	Dec 2013	#242
We were a hell of a lot sharper than the Greatest Generation who voted 55-39 for Reagan	Fumesucker	Dec 2013	#247
Nope. Boomers voted for Carter and Anderson more than Reagan.	Gormy Cuss	Dec 2013	#115
cough cough cough cough cough nope not true no matter how much you may want	azurnoir	Dec 2013	#177
Well, this boomer certainly didn't vote for Reagan	Art_from_Ark	Dec 2013	#214
I don't agree Cali,	MrYikes	Dec 2013	#4
So, effective anti-war protests, the fight for women's rights and racial eqality and GLBT	cali	Dec 2013	#8
Okay, you win, you're right, I'm wrong. nt	MrYikes	Dec 2013	#12
War on Drugs, Prison Rates, Corporate Corruption, Political Corruption, Deadly GMO's	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#21
yes, lots of bad stuff as well as good stuff. Your little lot (subset) seems to	cali	Dec 2013	#24
Now, now.	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#35
The millennials should have	Seedersandleechers	Dec 2013	#181
And you seem to think the boomer generation is wholly responsible for all the good shit	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#37
uh, no, my darling young friend. YOU seem to have a considerable reading comprehension	cali	Dec 2013	#43
You resorting to personal attacks sums up the strength of your position	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#63
lol. you attack- and nastily, an entire generation. the strength of your position is non-existent	cali	Dec 2013	#77
You patted an entire generation on the back. Your position is equally strong	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#84
"I pointed out if you are going to pat yourself	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#111
You think people weren't vested in those rights not being granted?	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#113
Well, if you could outline a retrospective plan	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#122
How did unions come to fruition?	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#124
Unions "came to fruition"	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#132
Took them a 100 years to get unions and boomers 20 to lose them	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#154
so, no answers either. not one of the bright lights of your generation, I guess?	bettyellen	Dec 2013	#175
We get to start the 100 year struggle all over	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#190
suck that your generation is not smart enough to come out for mid term elections....	bettyellen	Dec 2013	#194
ah..... another troll to ignore	madrchsod	Dec 2013	#205
oh jeeze, you have no idea, do you.	bettyellen	Dec 2013	#165
That it took boomers 20 years to lose what workers spent 100 years fighting for	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#167
HA HA HA HA .	bettyellen	Dec 2013	#168
Personal attacks says a lot about critical thinking skills	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#215
You have that backwards, IMO.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#179
The boomer generation is responsible for the fall of progressivism.	joshcryer	Dec 2013	#184
I'm not a millenial but it is really rich of you to start an OP	eilen	Dec 2013	#252
Baby boomers are, as a generation, selfish and short sighted	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2013	#248
Boomer Here	RobinA	Dec 2013	#42
Not a boomer, but +1	tammywammy	Dec 2013	#50
Huh?	llmart	Dec 2013	#191
As a millennial, I fear for the day when we get in power.	CorrectOfCenter	Dec 2013	#9
`that's an interesting point	cali	Dec 2013	#11
A few days/weeks of homelessness and/or hunger will change that libertarian lean in a g-damn hurry.	TroglodyteScholar	Dec 2013	#25
Many teenage-to-twentysomethings have libertarian leanings	jeff47	Dec 2013	#112
The split toward progressive libertarianism is pretty significant. Millennials are far more	bluestate10	Dec 2013	#243
Every generation is smarter than its predecessor and wiser than its successor. nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2013	#10
do you actually believe that?	cali	Dec 2013	#13
No, it's speaking to their point of view. Gen Xers groused about how out of touch	geek tragedy	Dec 2013	#17
REALLY? You saw a "boomer" thread and you had to start your own to get 137 posts?	snooper2	Dec 2013	#14
actually, there have been lots of threads posted about this issue	cali	Dec 2013	#19
Nothing bother me...well, except stupid people. And these fucking bugs we had in Texas	snooper2	Dec 2013	#22
Things that bother me	tammywammy	Dec 2013	#44
Interesting allegation...	LanternWaste	Dec 2013	#26
I fear the dominance of a generation that cannot remember a world before Ronald Reagan	Douglas Carpenter	Dec 2013	#15
Oh good generational warfare, must mean the porn war is over. n/t	tammywammy	Dec 2013	#16
Who won?	TroglodyteScholar	Dec 2013	#28
I'm not sure about my DU warfare cycle, but I think up next is the regional war.	hughee99	Dec 2013	#29
That is SOOOO last month!	Sissyk	Dec 2013	#81
Maybe it's because one is the parent generation and the other their	Cleita	Dec 2013	#18
Grandchildren.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#114
Wrecked economy, expensive education system	Prism	Dec 2013	#20
yes, because it's the fault of an entire generation	cali	Dec 2013	#27
Did you just call out a "broad brush" and make one at the same time?	hughee99	Dec 2013	#31
i put it down to grumpy old person syndrome, not so much get off my lawn as you owe me	loli phabay	Dec 2013	#33
I'm playing the author's game. I noted that in another post in this thread	cali	Dec 2013	#45
You're trying to assuage your conscience	Prism	Dec 2013	#32
Oh, We Can Cope	RobinA	Dec 2013	#47
I have no doubt of this whatsoever	Prism	Dec 2013	#58
My problem is your inability to own up to your mistakes	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#65
My problem is you don't actually answer	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#225
Did you see the mass walkout/protest that just took place this week?	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#228
Are you talking about the climate conference?	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#235
No. The fast food protest	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#236
So you were responsible for that?	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#238
Yes	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#246
Good for you!	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#262
Bleh. That generation has already shown a willingingness to butt fuck my generation.	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#264
Guilty?	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#53
Yup	Prism	Dec 2013	#59
Every generation fails in some way or another.	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#62
Without question	Prism	Dec 2013	#70
Yes, I know.	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#80
No one said that	Prism	Dec 2013	#89
I'm not drawing the victim card.	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#101
Re: your question: "Are you leaving the next generation	thucythucy	Dec 2013	#199
Plus a million.	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#200
well here`s my ....	madrchsod	Dec 2013	#206
Excellent!	kiva	Dec 2013	#216
They had the benefits given them because of things their parents did, they took these	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#74
Ayep	Prism	Dec 2013	#83
That's it in a nutshell	Scootaloo	Dec 2013	#224
Here is the biggest problem with boomers	LittleBlue	Dec 2013	#30
How can you say Gen-X/Y/Millenials have nothing to live up to?	hughee99	Dec 2013	#34
lol.	loli phabay	Dec 2013	#39
lol!	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#41
really? links to evidence of that bee?	cali	Dec 2013	#46
Yes, all generations are a mixed bag,	hughee99	Dec 2013	#79
I LOVE it	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#68
duzy!!...nt	Jesus Malverde	Dec 2013	#76
Ha!	Vashta Nerada	Dec 2013	#85
I Saw	RobinA	Dec 2013	#48
I wasn't really looking to be facetious with that	LittleBlue	Dec 2013	#55
No, they were preceded by the Silent Generation.	kiva	Dec 2013	#217
Jeez, you're being pedantic	LittleBlue	Dec 2013	#219
And what exactly did I say that contridicted what you said?	kiva	Dec 2013	#233
Much of the achievements Boomers take credit for were actually	eilen	Dec 2013	#253
Some of the Millennials I know	randr	Dec 2013	#36
How about "We're all in this together!" instead of a generational warfare!	LongTomH	Dec 2013	#40
People Complaining	RobinA	Dec 2013	#57
I think part of it is a lack of understanding of the difficulties millenials face.	wickerwoman	Dec 2013	#49
Spot on.	Laelth	Dec 2013	#100
+1000	tabbycat31	Dec 2013	#172
Well....what'd your generation do?	jeff47	Dec 2013	#51
Just So You Know?	RobinA	Dec 2013	#60
Some are. Many stopped when the draft did.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#71
Some didn't and I appreciate them	comrade snarky	Dec 2013	#221
Gen X is regularly forgotten. That comes as no shock to me. n/t	Laelth	Dec 2013	#86
I read once that Gen X is similar to the Silent Generation. n/t	tammywammy	Dec 2013	#96
I seriously doubt that 20-23% of Boomers were Hippies. Hippies stood for something.	bluestate10	Dec 2013	#244
Nixon and Reagan also got votes from older generations.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#245
The world is a lot bigger than any subgroup of people.	GliderGuider	Dec 2013	#52
Damn it, enough with the fucking infighting.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#54
Agreed!!!!	LongTomH	Dec 2013	#67
Boomers sat by and let it happen	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#69
Has it ever occurred to you that your	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#102
This started in the 80's	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#107
Did you expect us to be	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#108
I was in college and apathetic	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#110
I'm not sucking anything	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#117
College today is the high school dropout of your generation	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#119
A good job?	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#123
I worked next to a lady with a high school degree	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#130
And of course that experience	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#135
Most people don't pay off 75,000 in student loans in 5 years	joeglow3	Dec 2013	#155
Well, if it's paid	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#174
We were handed Vietnam,	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#158
Start talking, then.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#162
Hello, volunteer army.	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#164
Hello, crappy civilian job and education market	jeff47	Dec 2013	#166
Hear hear! n/t	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#173
Apathetic?	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#118
Well, he was entitled to be apathetic,	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#125
The apathy thing really	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#133
Yeah, me, too.	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#136
I did notice the last time I	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#140
There are times I want to take the attitude	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#143
Yeah, it is getting old	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#147
I understand.	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#149
When we were 10?	jeff47	Dec 2013	#109
I'm sorry, but do you really think we were all rolling around in money	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#189
You weren't rolling around in debt.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#232
I presume it's the same sort of contempt we had for our parents....	mike_c	Dec 2013	#56
Once again the boomers are self interested. Focusing on their own children the millenials.	Jesus Malverde	Dec 2013	#64
Uh...Millennials are Gen X's kids.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#120
Strauss and Howe use 1982 as the Millennials' starting birth year and 2004 as the last birth year.[	Jesus Malverde	Dec 2013	#121
And lots of other people use 90's or later.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#128
Kids today are another generation	tabbycat31	Dec 2013	#258
When one considered what the boomer generation inherited versus what they did with it....	Demo_Chris	Dec 2013	#66
Gen X is none too fond of the boomers, either.	Laelth	Dec 2013	#73
Very, very true.	TDale313	Dec 2013	#116
The perception is that they are selfish	taught_me_patience	Dec 2013	#75
This thread has all the ingredients of a mega thesis	Jesus Malverde	Dec 2013	#95
The boomers I know	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#105
Bull. Many younger people would kill for a starter home.	TDale313	Dec 2013	#129
My husband was 60 when we bought this home,	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#142
I was close to 40 when my ex and I bought our first home.	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#150
No, I realize it's not.	TDale313	Dec 2013	#151
That's nice. You notice it's not possible today?	jeff47	Dec 2013	#156
^^^ this ^^^	TDale313	Dec 2013	#159
I probably will never own a home	tabbycat31	Dec 2013	#260
Well, good for them.	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#261
Yeah, what generation voted for Reagan twice?	Vashta Nerada	Dec 2013	#90
The generational theft thing seems to be rubbing some Millenials the wrong way	AngryAmish	Dec 2013	#93
The Boomers are such a ridiculously large generation; therefore, it's impossible to generalize...	YoungDemCA	Dec 2013	#97
What you can generalize.	Jesus Malverde	Dec 2013	#103
Statistics still work.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#160
My first exposure to this generational conflict was in 1982	Orrex	Dec 2013	#98
So our grandchildren will know...The boomer members of my family:	Tikki	Dec 2013	#104
The state we're in is the fault of both Millenials and Boomers	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#126
+1...nt	Jesus Malverde	Dec 2013	#134
I would be bitter too ....	bvar22	Dec 2013	#127
Great ERA, buy you are missing the point	hueymahl	Dec 2013	#138
lol!	HappyMe	Dec 2013	#145
It's difficult to attend a rally when you're working 2-3 minimum wage part time jobs. (nt)	jeff47	Dec 2013	#161
Really?	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#146
Disco???	bvar22	Dec 2013	#163
The problem is not all of you are fighting on this side.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#171
Not all of "you" are fighting for the same side?	bvar22	Dec 2013	#197
What you see as "whining and blaming" is people trying to talk about now.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#226
What I see as "whining and blaming" is time wasted Whining & Blaming.	bvar22	Dec 2013	#249
Sorry, had to feed my kid instead.	jeff47	Dec 2013	#251
It never occurred to me	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#139
Question authority. Vote Regan.	joshcryer	Dec 2013	#185
Irony, thy name is Boomer	hueymahl	Dec 2013	#131
Oh, good grief...	ohheckyeah	Dec 2013	#148
Self absorbed much?	hueymahl	Dec 2013	#152
just another wedge for the 1% to distract and divide the 99%	eShirl	Dec 2013	#137
The OP's intention is obvious	Cali_Democrat	Dec 2013	#144
Surely you don't think everyone on a discussion board should cheer together...	polichick	Dec 2013	#170
Gawd, this is stupid. Good thing there aren't any actual burning issues to deal with.	Comrade Grumpy	Dec 2013	#141
everyone's bitching about "Boomer-caused" economic problems--but let's see who	MisterP	Dec 2013	#153
One generation to the one before: pfft	Thirties Child	Dec 2013	#157
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2013	#169
i think much of it has to do with Reagan	JI7	Dec 2013	#178
The real decline started with .....	musiclawyer	Dec 2013	#180
The boomers tried to turn back civil rights and brought us the fucking drug war.	joshcryer	Dec 2013	#182
You might be taken more seriously if you said	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#193
Nixon was a Boomer?	Fumesucker	Dec 2013	#211
Let me turn this around: It seems like there's a lot of contempt for Millennials from Boomers	Hippo_Tron	Dec 2013	#183
This is a very sensible post.	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#192
The legacy of the boomer generation	CFLDem	Dec 2013	#195
Boomers could say that the legacy of the "greatest" generation	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#198
Scott Walker, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan,	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#196
I have a theory that these ALEC Xers	eilen	Dec 2013	#255
That makes me giggle.	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#256
We're still going through the changes of the 60s.	Zen Democrat	Dec 2013	#201
True - changes that would've been completed sooner if the powers that be...	polichick	Dec 2013	#209
Classification by "generation" is divisive bullshit. n/t	winter is coming	Dec 2013	#202
As a boomer, I don't blame them.	liberalmuse	Dec 2013	#203
This Boomer is worse off because my Dad was ILA UNION	HockeyMom	Dec 2013	#204
Well, as a millennial / X-er hybrid...	Scootaloo	Dec 2013	#208
Perfectly said, but you left out one very interesting thing about the greed generation	Demo_Chris	Dec 2013	#210
I figured that was all implied when I noted the squandering of savings	Scootaloo	Dec 2013	#222
True enough. Anyway, well said! nt	Demo_Chris	Dec 2013	#223
Hippie punching? Really?	Zorra	Dec 2013	#237
Interesting link	Scootaloo	Dec 2013	#239
Just an instance, an example of Boomer Hubris: Healthcare	eilen	Dec 2013	#257
"Let me tell you why you resent me" is not generally the best way to start a conversation.	LeftyMom	Dec 2013	#213
Economically, the rich and wealthy run the US and our current situation is by their design.	killbotfactory	Dec 2013	#218
All of us	Dyedinthewoolliberal	Dec 2013	#230
Thank you.	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#234
The two groups have been in conflict for years. Millennials feel that Boomers are self	bluestate10	Dec 2013	#240
Since I've been told that I'll live into my 90s,	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2013	#250
I love Boomers	Harmony Blue	Dec 2013	#254
I asked this question to my Boomer father a few weeks ago	tabbycat31	Dec 2013	#259
Not a millennial, but my contempt for boomers comes from my workplace.	Dawgs	Dec 2013	#263
Well, MY contempt is for generalizations made from a personal small sample of "N."	WinkyDink	Dec 2013	#265

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