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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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95. We do know this much about what's in TPP...
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 03:50 PM
Dec 2013

Of the 29 chapters in this document, only five cover traditional trade matters! The other chapters amount to a devilish "partnership" for corporate protectionism:

—Food safety. Any of our government's food safety regulations (on pesticide levels, bacterial contamination, fecal exposure, toxic additives, etc.) and food labeling laws (organic, country-of-origin, animal-welfare approved, GMO-free, etc.) that are stricter than "international standards" could be ruled as "illegal trade barriers." Our government would then have to revise our consumer protections to comply with weaker standards.

—Fracking. Our Department of Energy would lose its authority to regulate exports of natural gas to any TPP nation. This would create an explosion of the destructive fracking process across our land, for both foreign and U.S. corporations could export fracked gas from America to member nations without any DOE review of the environmental and economic impacts on local communities -- or on our national interests.

—Jobs. US corporations would get special foreign-investor protections to limit the cost and risk of relocating their factories to low-wage nations that sign onto this agreement. So, an American corporation thinking about moving a factory would know it is guaranteed a sweetheart deal if it moves operations to a TPP nation like Vietnam. This would be an incentive for corporate chieftains to export more of our middle-class jobs.

—Drug prices. Big Pharma would be given more years of monopoly pricing on each of their patents and be empowered to block distribution of cheaper generic drugs. Besides artificially keeping everyone's prices high, this would be a death sentence to many people suffering from cancer, HIV, AIDS, tuberculosis and other treatable diseases in impoverished lands.

—Banksters. Wall Street and the financial giants in other TPP countries would make out like bandits. The deal explicitly prohibits transaction taxes (such as the proposed Robin Hood Tax here) that would shut down speculators who have repeatedly triggered financial crises and economic crashes around the world. It restricts "firewall" reforms that separate consumer banking from risky investment banking. It could roll back reforms that governments adopted to fix the extreme bank-deregulation regimen that caused Wall Street's 2007 crash. And it provides an escape from national rules that would limit the size of "too-big-to-fail" behemoths.

—Internet freedom. Corporations hoping to lock up and monopolize the Internet failed in Congress last year to pass their repressive "Stop Online Piracy Act." However, they've slipped SOPA's most pernicious provisions into TPP. The deal would also transform Internet service providers into a private, Big Brother police force, empowered to monitor our "user activity," arbitrarily take down our content and cut off our access to the Internet. To top that off, consumers could be assessed mandatory fines for something as benign as sending your mom a recipe you got off of a paid site.

http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/corporate-coup-disguise

And we know who the architects are...

Petition: Don't Let the 0.1% Fast Track a Corporate Coup; Stop the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) Secret Negotiations

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/dont-let-the-01-fast.fb40?r_by=5373960

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DU: porn vs TPP [View all] WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 OP
Best part is that in the porn threads, no ones mind is changed and the legal situation cant change stevenleser Dec 2013 #1
Porngeon! Smut Hut! Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #6
LOL, that wasn't exactly what I meant... stevenleser Dec 2013 #13
Lets do a poll. BootinUp Dec 2013 #2
I think people will need to Google TPP before they vote... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #4
What is TTP? (I kid, I kid) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #7
I did a google for DU Porn dot com, and it took me to JC Penny's Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #65
because anyone with an internet connection can easily find out what porn is Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #3
Not so... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #8
DU google 8040 postings re TPP westerebus Dec 2013 #22
westerebus getting off to porn WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #28
Well that's weird. westerebus Dec 2013 #70
I'm not talking about "what the TPP is", I'm talking about what the actual agreement SAYS. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #42
full transparency/prevent it from being fast tracked...agreed WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #44
pretty sure tpp stands for some sexual act. loli phabay Dec 2013 #11
*** Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #43
lol, submission is the best option. loli phabay Dec 2013 #46
holy shit I just made a B&BH reference below without seeing this arely staircase Dec 2013 #47
i know who they are, but never seen it before. loli phabay Dec 2013 #50
Have Clinton or Obama weighed in on the DU Porn Wars? arely staircase Dec 2013 #5
Hey, Bill doesn't STAND for it! jazzimov Dec 2013 #41
I know its hard (beavis and butthead snicker here) arely staircase Dec 2013 #44
I thought he was standing for it RainDog Dec 2013 #49
isn't Linda Tripp really John Goodman? mdbl Dec 2013 #66
more like John Mitchell RainDog Dec 2013 #72
the John Goodman/Linda Tripp SNL skits were some of their best ever nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #81
WHOOoooosh RainDog Dec 2013 #86
Yep libodem Dec 2013 #80
what's a little wiretapping between friends, right? RainDog Dec 2013 #87
I agree the libodem Dec 2013 #88
No, Joshie wrote RainDog Dec 2013 #89
Exactly libodem Dec 2013 #90
Popular discussion topics at discussion sites tend to be those that reflect disagreement/controversy lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #9
correct arely staircase Dec 2013 #48
We are cumming together against it davidpdx Dec 2013 #59
yeah I really didn't mean it that way arely staircase Dec 2013 #60
It's easy to have an opinion on Porn el_bryanto Dec 2013 #10
porn is the new pornography of DU WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #12
Wow. Gotta K&R this. nt riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #14
We know how to prioritize LittleBlue Dec 2013 #15
I've already come down against the TPP RainDog Dec 2013 #16
But did you come up for porn? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #69
lol. Some might perceive my position that way... n/t RainDog Dec 2013 #71
Let me guess: all MALES on this thread (so far)? CTyankee Dec 2013 #17
Your point being ? nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #19
what do you think? I'm listening... CTyankee Dec 2013 #20
It could mean any number of things - so want to make sure I know what you mean el_bryanto Dec 2013 #23
I wonder, which is why I ask. CTyankee Dec 2013 #24
Probably would have been the same - but what would be the significance el_bryanto Dec 2013 #25
My point indeed... CTyankee Dec 2013 #27
I see what you are saying. Males like myself are insensitive to the vast cruelties of TPP el_bryanto Dec 2013 #30
Goodness! Don't put too fine a point on this, Bryant! Really! CTyankee Dec 2013 #32
wrong. I count three females I know of before you posted RainDog Dec 2013 #38
Oh, uhmmm, ehhh, well... ThoughtCriminal Dec 2013 #58
Who started all those porn threads? pintobean Dec 2013 #64
I suspect this is, in part, because there are many conflicting opinions on porn arcane1 Dec 2013 #18
That seems to be the default reply, but it's also accompanied by a forfeit WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #33
Perhaps the TPP is less controversial MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #21
To be fair... FreeJoe Dec 2013 #26
I agree with you...things somehow work out differently...I myself was drawing that CTyankee Dec 2013 #29
To be fair to whom? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #34
October 2 2013 economy group westerebus Dec 2013 #76
Porn Posts have always been popular here on DU. We have many libertarians KoKo Dec 2013 #37
who are libertarians here who vote Democratic? RainDog Dec 2013 #40
I'd rather hear about the issues that matter to most Americans: CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #31
You would think stopping the biggest corporate coup since Citizens United would be one too. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #35
It would be interesting to see how many views the threads had also. Revanchist Dec 2013 #36
+1. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #55
try posting about education. No one seems to care about education either. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #39
I know. n/t KoKo Dec 2013 #51
I think people care about a lot of posts/issues even when they don't comment RainDog Dec 2013 #54
I tried talking about the benefits of recycling urine. Kaleva Dec 2013 #75
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #52
snicker, you used exposure in a porn thread. loli phabay Dec 2013 #53
Some people want to tell others what they can and cannot view on the internet. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #56
Links to TPP threads (that have died a quick death) WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #57
... RainDog Dec 2013 #67
Porn is Kung- Fu theatre, TPP is depraved . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #61
Oh gawd KICK and REC!!!! +1,000,000,000 upi402 Dec 2013 #62
I never reply to porn threads... alittlelark Dec 2013 #63
On a typical day, I converse much more about work than politics LanternWaste Dec 2013 #68
How many different people have posted in the porn threads? Kaleva Dec 2013 #73
DU has a new porn group? Omaha Steve Dec 2013 #74
not yet RainDog Dec 2013 #77
oh yes, the evil Obama and Clinton are clouding our minds with porn threads. dionysus Dec 2013 #78
The OP WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #79
As George Carlin once said arely staircase Dec 2013 #82
Practically everyone on DU agrees about the TPP being a bad thing. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #83
Trash ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #84
It's much harder for people to get intellectually worked-up over TPP/TPIP... Chan790 Dec 2013 #85
Not really... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #92
Well, yes. Chan790 Dec 2013 #93
We do know this much about what's in TPP... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #95
I think a lot of people see it like NAFTA RainDog Dec 2013 #97
DUfail PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #91
Porn attracts attention. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #94
Good one . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #96
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