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In reply to the discussion: WOW...Glenn Greenwald Strikes Back! NEW Revelations of Media Funding! [View all]Hissyspit
(45,790 posts)106. He's an American citizen. Jeez.
Of course he's referred to as an American. Lots of American citizens live outside the country for perfectly good reasons. You know, freedom?
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/06/11/glenn-greenwald-cant-live-us
Glenn Greenwald currently resides in Brazil, where he moved to be with his husband because the U.S. government does not recognize same-sex marriage. He says this experience has allowed him to view the U.S. government with a more critical eye and informs the stories on which he reports.
When you grow up with any kind of real challenge that forces you to evaluate your relationship to these conventions and the things that youre taught you start to question what that system is. Greenwald told CNNs Christiane Amanpour. Is it really valid in the way that its rejecting me or is it the system itself that is corrupted? I think that lends itself to a much more critical eye that you end up casting upon things that youre taught are indisputably true.
Out magazine interviewed Greenwald in 2011 about why he is forced to live in Brazil:
Given Greenwald's intellectual fecundity and argumentative ferocity, being gay may be the least interesting thing about him. But even Greenwald doesn't claim that his sexual orientation doesn't matter. After all, if he were straight he would be living in Manhattan, his home for most of the last 20 years. Instead, he lives in Rio de Janeiro, barred from moving to the United States with his Brazilian boyfriend, David Michael Miranda.
"Brazil recognizes our relationship for immigration purposes, while the government of my supposedly 'free,' liberty-loving country enacted a law explicitly barring such recognition," says Greenwald, referring to the Defense of Marriage Act with the disdain he typically shows for policies he believes are eroding Americans' freedoms. Greenwald's attacks on the powerful make him a tempting target for reprisals. So it's no surprise that, soon after he started blogging, critics sometimes tried to out him in a game of "gotcha." But what upset Greenwald was the implication that he had been closeted in the first place. "There was nothing to out," he says. "I've been as out as I can be since I was 20."
When you grow up with any kind of real challenge that forces you to evaluate your relationship to these conventions and the things that youre taught you start to question what that system is. Greenwald told CNNs Christiane Amanpour. Is it really valid in the way that its rejecting me or is it the system itself that is corrupted? I think that lends itself to a much more critical eye that you end up casting upon things that youre taught are indisputably true.
Out magazine interviewed Greenwald in 2011 about why he is forced to live in Brazil:
Given Greenwald's intellectual fecundity and argumentative ferocity, being gay may be the least interesting thing about him. But even Greenwald doesn't claim that his sexual orientation doesn't matter. After all, if he were straight he would be living in Manhattan, his home for most of the last 20 years. Instead, he lives in Rio de Janeiro, barred from moving to the United States with his Brazilian boyfriend, David Michael Miranda.
"Brazil recognizes our relationship for immigration purposes, while the government of my supposedly 'free,' liberty-loving country enacted a law explicitly barring such recognition," says Greenwald, referring to the Defense of Marriage Act with the disdain he typically shows for policies he believes are eroding Americans' freedoms. Greenwald's attacks on the powerful make him a tempting target for reprisals. So it's no surprise that, soon after he started blogging, critics sometimes tried to out him in a game of "gotcha." But what upset Greenwald was the implication that he had been closeted in the first place. "There was nothing to out," he says. "I've been as out as I can be since I was 20."
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Lol, see my thanks to Sid below. I would probably not have found this if wasn't for him.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#5
Once again you helped me find this great thread. Greenwald, one of the few real journalists left in
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#4
Ah yes, Greenwald indeed - he must have missed seeing his name in the headlines.....
George II
Dec 2013
#34
Attack points? He's referred to as an "American" journalist, why is he in South America?
George II
Dec 2013
#63
When a poster called you out on ad hominem attack, you started talking about where he lives.
merrily
Dec 2013
#93
Okay, how is what I said originally an "ad hominem attack"? People LOVE to throw...
George II
Dec 2013
#103
You rewrote what I said, I never said anything CLOSE to what you have in "quotes"!
George II
Dec 2013
#147
So what were you trying to say about Greenwald? Did you not 'imply' and then double down
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#151
I was born in Brooklyn, grew up in New York City and now live in Connecticut....
George II
Dec 2013
#149
Why is that so important to you? For your information, which is basically NOT your business...
George II
Dec 2013
#173
Rather presumptuous, aren't you? Now, as to the assassination question - any?
George II
Dec 2013
#62
Where they live seems irrelevant to begin with. However, to the extent it matters at all,
merrily
Dec 2013
#90
And it's just as plausible the facts on U.S. Immigration law he points out are the reason, too.
Hissyspit
Dec 2013
#114
Well, to be accurate, Greenwald probably fled America because of the tax issues...
randome
Dec 2013
#64
He said it very publicly. I'm willing to take his word for it. Besides, just like we all
merrily
Dec 2013
#81
It's not much of an attack. The question was raised why he prefers to live in Brazil.
randome
Dec 2013
#83
Again, Greenwald's life choices change nothing. Point is, the NSA's activities, not Greenwald's.
merrily
Dec 2013
#85
How can you put "to be accurate" and "probably" in the same sentence and keep a straight
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#128
When someone jumps into a thread with nothing but derision, I wonder what their agenda really is.
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#130
Wait, wasn't the criticism of Manning and Wikileaks that the did THE OPPOSITE. I am sure
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#76
I take it you choose to follow Gen Clapper and Gen Alexander and smite those that dare speak truth
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#129
Thanks for your wonderful, insightful, meaningful, fulfilling and full of it contribution.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#59
Hey Sid...wanna make a bet? FATCA hits Greenwald soon...so I am betting that
msanthrope
Dec 2013
#70
It's the Koch/Libertarian money of the past few years he'd have to disclose.
msanthrope
Dec 2013
#91
Looks to me like you choose the wrong side in this class war. You think your
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#131
I find it curious that you go to such great lengths to deride those that speak truth
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#158
I find it curious that you go to great lengths to defend a Libertarian who receives
msanthrope
Dec 2013
#160
Your rationalizations must be the key to your happiness. You choose to attack
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#161
I'm glad she's not running. She's one of the strongest Senators we've fielded in a great
msanthrope
Dec 2013
#167
PandoDaily, and NSFWCorp, where Ames came from, are big enough to make news
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#43
Only the highest, most mature level of intellectual analysis and political philosophy.
merrily
Dec 2013
#82
Does Greenwald have additional revelations to reveal? I believe he's claimed to.
el_bryanto
Dec 2013
#47
No, as if dwelling only on his tax issues and where he lives now and only those
merrily
Dec 2013
#101
I was not aware of a specific %, but I was aware that a lot more material remains unpublished
merrily
Dec 2013
#97
I mind that less than I mind how quietly "my fellow Americans" take almost any news.
merrily
Dec 2013
#100