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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
23. Look at the proponderance of evidence
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 07:00 AM
Dec 2013

Several individuals have joined the lawsuit. Five men are suing. So those guys, five of them, are willing to risk their careers to call this one superior on the issue. I grant you that it isn't settled yet, but it looks to me like she did it. I'm not saying that because she is a woman, and they are men. I'm saying that because five people are the plaintiffs of the suit, five. They are listing nearly every other employee of the company as witness's. They would be beyond foolish to do so if there wasn't any truth, and while I can believe there are groups of foolish individuals, we have Congress as an example, I have a hard time swallowing the idea that everyone in the group is a fool. Not just one, every single one.

Then there is the defense of the one accused. Her first reply is that white males are not a protected class, and therefor can't file a lawsuit. That tells me she knew what she was doing, and felt she could get away with it because no one would side with a white male if he complained. Later she claims she was usually traveling, and hardly ever in the office anyway. But she's asking for the suit to be dismissed not because she was not in the office, but because White Males are not a protected class.

That demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what equality is, and what EEO is all about. EEO regulations don't create protected classes, they prevent harassment of everyone. Here are the protected classes. If you have a race, a gender, a religion, or a ethnicity. Every one of us have at least three of those, and it has been argued that even those who have no religion have a religious belief. Sexual orientation is being added to the list, but that is another discussion.

So those men are protected, and while she is correct that it is unusual for white men to file a lawsuit, she is mistaken if she thinks that is because they are the authorized by law victim class. They aren't. A hate crime can be done against anyone, or by anyone. Harassment can be done by anyone, or to anyone.

So it is at this time five against one, and while we have no idea what the other employees will say, it is telling that the CEO is demanding that the suit be dismissed based upon the race and gender of the plaintiff, the alleged victim.

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She sounds like a dick Fumesucker Dec 2013 #1
And you don't need a penis to be a dick rock Dec 2013 #52
Lol CFLDem Dec 2013 #2
But that's the problem. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #58
Bullshit nxylas Dec 2013 #3
Thanks... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2013 #4
That is my thought too--if you're being singled out for your gender or your race, no matter if MADem Dec 2013 #7
Right! Gender discrimination is the problem, not just discrimination against women. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #10
She hasn't been tossed out because she inherited a 50% stake in the company from Tanuki Dec 2013 #15
right wingers always claim it means gays, females, minorities etc get special JI7 Dec 2013 #9
Exactly correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #55
Spoken like a clueless CEO Hekate Dec 2013 #5
her arguments sound like the bs that come from right wingers JI7 Dec 2013 #6
I'm sure that's the argument her lawyer is making... JHB Dec 2013 #8
I hope they take her to the cleaners leftynyc Dec 2013 #11
Or, maybe the plaintiffs are the menace. Too soon to know. merrily Dec 2013 #20
I'm assuming since there are leftynyc Dec 2013 #22
Faulty assumption, when potential for money is involved. merrily Dec 2013 #26
If it was a man being accused, I doubt many would be defending him either davidn3600 Dec 2013 #34
It also seems they are avoiding the real issue, and are trying to deflect away from it. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #48
If she didn't do it, wouldn't her defense be "I didn't do it.", not renie408 Dec 2013 #36
You must be new here leftynyc Dec 2013 #39
My posts don't change based on the gender of the accused. merrily Dec 2013 #45
You aren't the only person on this board (n/t) leftynyc Dec 2013 #49
Nobody called her on her behavior before Savannahmann Dec 2013 #12
I have next to no doubt that someone has said SOMETHING JackInGreen Dec 2013 #13
Is the accuser, who stands to win money by suing in this instance, always truthful and the merrily Dec 2013 #19
Look at the proponderance of evidence Savannahmann Dec 2013 #23
LOL, that's not evidence. merrily Dec 2013 #25
Well, her response isn't "you're full of shit," it's "you can't do that because you're white men" Scootaloo Dec 2013 #33
I agree kcr Dec 2013 #42
According to the article, she personally does deny the charges. merrily Dec 2013 #46
I don't think it's too early to form an opinion for someone that's not on the jury. hughee99 Dec 2013 #61
Why do you think someone who forms an opinion at this stage is deemed unfit to be a juror? merrily Dec 2013 #62
Probably not necessarily unfit, but generally they ask if you know anything about the case hughee99 Dec 2013 #63
They are dismissed--sometimes very angrily by the judge--if they say they've formed an opinion. merrily Dec 2013 #64
I was actually thinking of the jury selection phase, hughee99 Dec 2013 #65
I was talking about the jury selection phase. merrily Dec 2013 #66
I've been through jury selection a few times hughee99 Dec 2013 #68
Still unfit to serve on the jury, whether dismissed cordially or harshly. merrily Dec 2013 #73
. ReRe Dec 2013 #14
Why are you assuming that the plaintiffs are truthful and she's a liar? merrily Dec 2013 #18
Okay... turn it around... ReRe Dec 2013 #28
Agree. The Raw Story article is poorly written. merrily Dec 2013 #47
I'm inclined to believe the christx30 Dec 2013 #29
It could be allegedly creating a hostile environment in the workplace. merrily Dec 2013 #27
I don't think her argument will hold water in court FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #16
The story does not give enough info for much beyond knee-jerk reactions. merrily Dec 2013 #17
Spot on. Laelth Dec 2013 #30
I just found this. merrily Dec 2013 #56
Gee, look at all the alleged left on this thread, assuming accusations = guilt. merrily Dec 2013 #21
Even if she did do these things ... Laelth Dec 2013 #31
It was all those zipper... I mean Zimmy threads! Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #41
Courts decide guilt. Posters have benign and inconsequential opinions. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #53
You're all over this thread attempting to exonerate this CEO DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #67
Put on your reading glasses. Or thinking cap. Not one post I made said she was innocent, not one. merrily Dec 2013 #72
It's true that she's innocent until proven guilty nxylas Dec 2013 #69
Terrible Misunderstanding! Her lisp caused her to be misunderstood . . . cer7711 Dec 2013 #24
She confuses a couple of concepts quaker bill Dec 2013 #32
You are a member of a "protected class" just as much as she is, if not more. Major Nikon Dec 2013 #71
Not The Onion? CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #35
LOL, sure seems straight off the page of that. nt JudyM Dec 2013 #51
This has been going on for years. It's not new. Linkage. Blue_Adept Dec 2013 #37
Sounds like she has a penis envy problem. She could have a sex change B Calm Dec 2013 #38
Well isn't she just the sweetest thing. HappyMe Dec 2013 #40
More from the lawsuit Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #43
Lol, good one! nt Logical Dec 2013 #44
Ironically, "Penis" is the one word you can't say in an Archie Comic. FSogol Dec 2013 #50
While I haven't read the Defense pleadings ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #54
Here's the Guardian's take on the topic lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #57
May be a ploy SusieQ01 Dec 2013 #59
That's bullshit. Men can and do sue for sexual harassment BainsBane Dec 2013 #60
A better defense would be to claim Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #70
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