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nashville_brook

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40. here's a link that explains exactly what i think is happening...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013
http://nhlabornews.com/2013/12/today-public-employee-retirements-tomorrow-the-rest-of-america/


Today, public employee retirements; Tomorrow, the rest of America

Yesterday was NOT a good day for public sector workers who think they can rely on long-promised pension benefits.

Detroit: Yesterday, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled that even the state constitution did not protect workers’ retirement benefits.
Illinois: Yesterday, the state Legislature passed a law reducing pension benefits and prohibiting collective bargaining on pensions.
Both of these violations of workers’ rights are being justified on the theory that the retirement systems are in such “dire” shape. The rhetorical focus is on the “funding ratio”: comparing what the system has now, in assets, with the total benefits it will have to pay out in the future.

In household budget terms, this is like comparing your current bank balance with the total amount of the mortgage or rent payments you are expected to make over the next 20 years. (Try doing that math, and you’ll understand how the “pension reform” disciples come up with their doomsday scenarios. They’re doing it with Social Security, too; so what is happening to public employees now will probably happen to the rest of America very, very soon.)

Ok, so… maybe the retirement systems’ current funding ratio is “dire”. Whose fault is that?

During the 2007-2008 Wall Street meltdown, public pension systems across America lost more than a trillion dollars in value. (Yes, that’s “trillion” – with a “T”.) Most public pension systems had already lost millions or billions in the 2001 recession.

But now that public pensions are a trillion dollars underfunded, they’re being attacked as “unaffordable” – and somehow, it’s all the fault of public workers.

Detroit: both retirement systems were fully funded, back before the second Bush recession.
Illinois: In FY2000, back before the first Bush recession, the State Employees’ Retirement System was more than 80% funded, and the Teachers’ Retirement System was almost 70% funded.
But… instead of going after all those Wall Street folks who lost all that public pension fund money… our politicians are going after rank-and-file public employees. (By the way: Wall Street bonuses are gong up by 5% to 15%, this year.)

Think this isn’t your fight? because it’s all the way out in Detroit? or because it’s “just” public employee unions?
Think again.

The same folks who have been busy “reforming” public sector retirement benefits are also out to “reform” Social Security.

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Indeed. FUCK YOU...and not in a good way! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2013 #1
I agree Autumn Dec 2013 #2
love the imagery of running uphill backwards :) nashville_brook Dec 2013 #44
I second that "Fuck You" TDale313 Dec 2013 #3
Sorry to burst your outrage bubble, but the GOP plan to cut SS for defense cuts is DOA. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #4
oh really? you don't think that this isn't playing out in the media right now? nashville_brook Dec 2013 #7
No, not really. No one is talking about sequestration geek tragedy Dec 2013 #11
got a link? nashville_brook Dec 2013 #45
Tell us how you really feel. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #5
i was having low blood sugar in addition to hearing a day's worth of news about nashville_brook Dec 2013 #9
It's been a lousy day for the 99%. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2013 #12
today, at least, has been better with Obama supporting living wage. nashville_brook Dec 2013 #50
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #6
Why are they worried about it? Social security doesn't have anything.... socialist_n_TN Dec 2013 #8
That worked really well for 9/11 RC Dec 2013 #14
That's true. Maybe once bitten, twice shy will work this time... socialist_n_TN Dec 2013 #19
+1 nashville_brook Dec 2013 #47
Because our overlords want to privatize it. OnionPatch Dec 2013 #20
they've been on a months-long campaign to gin up support nashville_brook Dec 2013 #49
We can't balance the budget on seniors --> and they know it nashville_brook Dec 2013 #42
Because when lots of old people can't afford food or housing DavidDvorkin Dec 2013 #10
never thought of it like that -- kind of like making woad from granny blood nashville_brook Dec 2013 #43
True DavidDvorkin Dec 2013 #53
"Not cutting the military puts National and Social Security at risk." Coyotl Dec 2013 #13
^^THIS! nashville_brook Dec 2013 #38
It's not your money! Delmette Dec 2013 #15
here's a link that explains exactly what i think is happening... nashville_brook Dec 2013 #40
I suppose a big tax cut for the rich needs to be tossed in to the mix too. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #16
Never. They got theirs. And they want ours, too. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #24
+1000000 nashville_brook Dec 2013 #39
you KNOW that's being discussed in the Senate Finance Committee nashville_brook Dec 2013 #28
Makes ya wanna drag em by the tie into the real world. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #29
love that image -- might be something to work with! nashville_brook Dec 2013 #41
More like cutting Social Security to benefit corporate Military Industry Matariki Dec 2013 #17
I should have known you'd be on the same page as me. DeSwiss Dec 2013 #18
:) nashville_brook Dec 2013 #26
Not raising taxes on the wealthy puts national security at risk!!! OnionPatch Dec 2013 #21
hell yes -- it's their turn to pay their fair share! nashville_brook Dec 2013 #27
Remember this: ReRe Dec 2013 #22
precisely. these "wars" we inherited from bush jr need to end nashville_brook Dec 2013 #25
What's Obama got to say bout it? Oh, wait. Never mind... blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #23
I found a sneak preview! Check reply 34! Doctor_J Dec 2013 #35
This is why we need Elizabeth Warren and/or Bernie Sanders to run for the presidency JDPriestly Dec 2013 #30
that Bernie Sanders is talking about running gives me hope nashville_brook Dec 2013 #37
If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba Dec 2013 #31
One would think that point would be heard in the media. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #33
now i have a sad. nashville_brook Dec 2013 #46
I love emerging memes. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #32
i really really hope that the pentagon waste report gets traction nashville_brook Dec 2013 #48
I'm with you.........nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #52
The president will slap this down tomorrow Doctor_J Dec 2013 #34
credit where due, he did come out this morning supporting income equality measures... nashville_brook Dec 2013 #36
So now the military needs old peoples'money? notadmblnd Dec 2013 #51
Revolution happyfunball Dec 2013 #54
it's amazing, isn't it. what's the saying… pigs eat hogs are slaughtered? nashville_brook Dec 2013 #55
Those dots connect in a bad way. DirkGently Dec 2013 #56
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