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longship

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19. Ahem! Hillary isn't yet running either.

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 07:59 PM

Dec 2013

In fact, nobody is. That's because they know something that more than a few DUers do not. That there are three years until the next presidential election and the Democrats have a possibly very difficult mid-term election in less than a year. Plus, there's the small matter that nobody will be running for 2016 until after the 2014 mid-term, whose outcome is very likely to have a profound effect on the candidate field in 2016.

In other words, all this 2016 gum flapping now is just that, and nothing more.

Get the fuck to work on giving our 2016 candidate, whoever it is, a Congress, state legislatures, and governorships which will enable him or her to get some shit done.

That's fucking job number one. Anybody spewing about 2016 now is effectively distracting us from that most important job.

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Elizabeth Warren PROMISES TO SERVE OUT HER TERM, Not Run For Prez [View all] WilliamPitt Dec 2013 OP

Ok Hillary folks, you won one round DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #1

Ahem! Hillary isn't yet running either. longship Dec 2013 #19

THANK YOU!! nt SunSeeker Dec 2013 #22

Elizabeth, President in 2024 Lamonte Dec 2013 #25

Aye! And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. longship Dec 2013 #29

....... DonViejo Dec 2013 #30

Too old. She'll be 75 in 2024. MADem Dec 2013 #101

If discussing 2016 is distracting to you, that's your problem. Some of us can rhett o rick Dec 2013 #36

But. Nobody. Will. Be. Running. For. 2016. For. Two. Years. longship Dec 2013 #43

+10000000 dionysus Dec 2013 #62

that's OK, Bernie will do fine! nt G_j Dec 2013 #2

He could really stir things up - and that's good! polichick Dec 2013 #28

Warren will do more good in the US senate as the senior senator from MA than as Prez Larkspur Dec 2013 #3

Well, heck, given that logic Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #51

Obama wanted to run for Prez; Warren does not Larkspur Dec 2013 #103

I imagine that you are happy given your thread yesterday Gothmog Dec 2013 #4

This. WilliamPitt Dec 2013 #15

I do not blame or fault you Gothmog Dec 2013 #18

There's a subtle difference between hootinholler Dec 2013 #5

I know. Math can be really difficult sometimes. Whisp Dec 2013 #10

"So enough already, 2014, please" Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #6

Yay! Warren for President! Whisp Dec 2013 #7

What about "No" do you not understand? longship Dec 2013 #23

why are you angry? Whisp Dec 2013 #27

It bothers me that people have apparently become delusional about Warren in 2016. longship Dec 2013 #35

The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, Gang aft agley Fumesucker Dec 2013 #8

You put 'PROMISES' in caps but she didn't promise, she said she 'plan'ned. PoliticAverse Dec 2013 #9

what's with making up a little bit here and there... Whisp Dec 2013 #11

so you compare WillPitt to Karl Rove. That's what you just did. LOL! KittyWampus Dec 2013 #100

No, it was not meant to be a comparison. Whisp Dec 2013 #102

I know, I know!!!!! Raises hand Autumn Dec 2013 #26

is anyone holding you back from talking about 2014? Whisp Dec 2013 #12

Are you saying that you wont be bullied into being quiet about 2016? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #39

What do you think we should do dreamnightwind Dec 2013 #13

Bernie as a Dem (NOT third party!!!!) KamaAina Dec 2013 #17

Good question. Laelth Dec 2013 #33

What does Warren have to do before people believe her? Beacool Dec 2013 #14

she will need to do DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #20

I don't think that Warren will run. Beacool Dec 2013 #48

Except Hillary could start up a national organization with a phone call. pnwmom Dec 2013 #71

Agreed. Right now, 2014 is critical. magical thyme Dec 2013 #16

She definitely will serve us better in the Senate loyalsister Dec 2013 #21

We can and need to think about the short and long term success of the progressive message Fearless Dec 2013 #24

Absolutely INdemo Dec 2013 #38

The comments following the Herald essay are vile. Laelth Dec 2013 #31

2016 Obama - Biden Reformed Bully Dec 2013 #32

I'm pretty sure she'll still be our senior senator in 2014 MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #34

it's that math thing, and counting. Whisp Dec 2013 #41

+1 Fearless Dec 2013 #46

Such a valiant effort to instill reality BainsBane Dec 2013 #37

How absurd for those here that insinuate that we cant worry about both 2014 and 2016. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #40

something very noticeable... Whisp Dec 2013 #42

What a win-win for the conservatives, both Republican and DEmocrat, if HRC runs against Christie. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #47

The Left can take a hike if they don't support the nominee, regardless of who that person might be. Beacool Dec 2013 #50

Oh no you dont. If you nominate a corporatist that is beholden to Wall Street, then rhett o rick Dec 2013 #54

And how would this imaginary progressive win the general election? Beacool Dec 2013 #57

Are you trying to make an argument by Just Asking Questions? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #85

That's your opinion. Beacool Dec 2013 #87

Do you mean other than the fact that there are no 2016 candidates? longship Dec 2013 #80

Kinda funny that some are calling the quest for a progressive candidate "delusional". rhett o rick Dec 2013 #86

A correction. longship Dec 2013 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Whisp Dec 2013 #44

I think what the real PROMISE here that not many will ever admit Whisp Dec 2013 #45

No, if she runs for the job, she will win because she'll be the most qualified candidate. Beacool Dec 2013 #52

The winners are not always the most qualified. Whisp Dec 2013 #56

Please............ Beacool Dec 2013 #58

I see in another thread Rinse Penis is gearing up Whisp Dec 2013 #60

Who the hell are you talking about? Beacool Dec 2013 #61

I thought everyone here knew who Rinse was. hnmmm. Whisp Dec 2013 #68

Thanks for posting the article. Beacool Dec 2013 #73

Bernie! Bernie! liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #49

Yeah, that would be a sure winner. Beacool Dec 2013 #59

he'll wipe the floor with Hillary Bea! dionysus Dec 2013 #63

Sweetheart, you're my bud, but you are inhaling fumes if you think that this country Beacool Dec 2013 #64

Bernie is a household name! he has more name recognition than Hillary! dionysus Dec 2013 #66

I like Bernie too, but it's a ludicrous idea that he would get anywhere if he did run in 2016. Beacool Dec 2013 #67

no offense taken, Bea... and i have something for you... dionysus Dec 2013 #89

Minnie!!!!!! Beacool Dec 2013 #91

I don't give a damn if he wins or not. If winning means putting up with more corporatists then liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #81

as nice as a socialist president would be, you're missing the larger point. dionysus Dec 2013 #90

This........ Beacool Dec 2013 #95

i know. the 50 state strategy which everyone purports to love did not iclude running kucinich clones dionysus Dec 2013 #97

I loved it. Beacool Dec 2013 #98

GOTV ! 2014 pinto Dec 2013 #53

Too bad. Now, it's up to Bernie to challenge the 3rd Way. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #55

yeah... to let the RWers take charge and burn the country to the ground... and then you dionysus Dec 2013 #65

Exactly. Beacool Dec 2013 #69

they're not sorry though. they'd rather run a kucinch type nationwide campaign and lose everywhere dionysus Dec 2013 #72

They can be exactly like what the tea party did to the GOP tabbycat31 Dec 2013 #75

That strategy is dumb. Beacool Dec 2013 #77

The Blue Dogs and 3rd Way are rightwingers. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #84

as long as there is someone to raise the progressive flag in 2016 and challenge Wall Street power Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #70

Hmm... Hillary Clinton says she won't run for president again krawhitham Dec 2013 #74

oh you! Whisp Dec 2013 #83

Good for her! Warpy Dec 2013 #76

I am truly sorry to all of my friends here who wanted her to run. I support Hillary but like Warren hrmjustin Dec 2013 #78

"I am not running for president in four years. I am not running for president in 2008", Barack Obama NoOneMan Dec 2013 #79

Warren is not electable. Her ego is getting the best of her. Beausoir Dec 2013 #82

The pop psychochologist is in! bobduca Dec 2013 #96

Sounds like Scott Brown has invaded DU Larkspur Dec 2013 #104

here on du that's a 'will probably run' from ms warren spanone Dec 2013 #92

Yeah its not like Obama said that or anything.. bobduca Dec 2013 #93

proving my point..... spanone Dec 2013 #94

point(s) proven bobduca Dec 2013 #99

Aha! So both you and she are part of the corporatist conspiracy! treestar Dec 2013 #105