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In reply to the discussion: No, you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your 'religious freedom'. [View all]pintobean
(18,101 posts)7. Fake quote
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/104649/amy-sullivan-anatomy-wishful-viral-rumor
February 10, 2012. Obama appears in the White House press room to announce some proposed changes to the HHS mandate that requires employer-based insurance to include free coverage of contraception after fielding complaints from a diverse group of religious individuals who felt the exception for religious employers was too narrow.
February 15, 2012. On a forum discussing Rick Santorum at Topix, someone posts this observation: You cant deny women their basic rights and pretend its about your religious freedom. If you dont like birth control, dont use it. Religious freedom doesnt mean you can force others to live by your beliefs.
February 16, 2012. The above statement, now attributed to Obama and plastered over an image of Obama forcefully making a point, is posted on a tumblr called Atheist Stardust. Its unclear if this was the first site to link Obama with the quote about religious freedom, but the post was either liked or re-blogged by more than 28,000 other sites, which makes it a likely suspect.
From there, the image and quote took off, becoming particularly popular with Pinterest and Tumblr users. While it was eventually picked up some conservative sites as evidence of Obamas war on religion, the vast majority of those posting the quote seem to be liberals who express relief and pride at Obamas supposed willingness to stick it to religious conservatives.
February 15, 2012. On a forum discussing Rick Santorum at Topix, someone posts this observation: You cant deny women their basic rights and pretend its about your religious freedom. If you dont like birth control, dont use it. Religious freedom doesnt mean you can force others to live by your beliefs.
February 16, 2012. The above statement, now attributed to Obama and plastered over an image of Obama forcefully making a point, is posted on a tumblr called Atheist Stardust. Its unclear if this was the first site to link Obama with the quote about religious freedom, but the post was either liked or re-blogged by more than 28,000 other sites, which makes it a likely suspect.
From there, the image and quote took off, becoming particularly popular with Pinterest and Tumblr users. While it was eventually picked up some conservative sites as evidence of Obamas war on religion, the vast majority of those posting the quote seem to be liberals who express relief and pride at Obamas supposed willingness to stick it to religious conservatives.
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No, you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your 'religious freedom'. [View all]
Playinghardball
Dec 2013
OP
Prior to the mandate this was never an issue. The mandate created this mess.
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#5
Not everyone with a potential conscience exception does business in CA.
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#16
Actually, including birth control as a part of health insurance is, for many women, a health issue.
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#89
Then it has obviously failed spectacularly to achieve its stated objective. n/t
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#13
because right wing assholes are fighting it? what's your solution - roll over and take it?
ZRT2209
Dec 2013
#14
I want employers out of the business of influencing whether or not I have access to BC.
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#18
Based on your previously unqualified declaration my response was on the mark.
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#27
Exactly. They're no more paying for birth control then they are paying for colonoscopies.
kcr
Dec 2013
#74
No, the insurance companies declare birth control to be a part of health care.
Half-Century Man
Dec 2013
#113
Since I've previously refuted your past effort to employ this straw man argument
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#75
Please show me the pre-mandate court cases where an employer could interefere
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#28
"Otherwise, we'd still have child labor, with little bodies working in the coal mines."
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#48
"They didn't need the courts before, they could just exclude BC if they wanted to."
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2013
#56
It is about time someone said that. The rethugs continue to try to establish their theocracy while
jwirr
Dec 2013
#24
Just returned to my office and saw all of the comments concerning this post...
Playinghardball
Dec 2013
#45
Why don't you edit it to state that while the quote certainly expresses the President's opinion
grantcart
Dec 2013
#66
Don't you think that folks on this board already know that it expresses the President's opinion?
Playinghardball
Dec 2013
#73
The issue is that it is presented as a direct quote which appears to be a misattribution.
grantcart
Dec 2013
#79
This isn't a conservative website - it's fact-based! If this isn't an exact quote the thread ...
JEFF9K
Dec 2013
#46
You mean, someone might think the president thinks women should have access to birth control?
kcr
Dec 2013
#109
Wow, surely our President's statement on basis rights will be received as heretical and pure heresy
indepat
Dec 2013
#81
Which does not say that I am the one who alerted, nor was I the one. Why would you
merrily
Dec 2013
#106