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muriel_volestrangler

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22. Because they work to spread continents around the groups
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:00 PM
Dec 2013

They had a very complicated draw to make sure no group had 3 European sides, and no group had 2 South American (or other) teams. They try to avoid matches that happen often in qualifying, or in continental tournaments.

Does the NCAA tournament have a group stage like this? Because that method still produces 'groups of death', as far as some are concerned - the #16 team find itself competing, most likely, for the runner-up spot with the #17 team (with one team most likely to beat both, and one team most likely to lose to both - so it probably hangs on the result of one match). #15 v. #18 is also pretty close, and so on. Meanwhile, you know you'll get a group of 8,9,24 and 25 - almost certainly 8 and 9 will go through, so it's just a matter of which gets the winner spot for a hopefully easier match against a runner-up in the next round.

For fun, what your system would produce, from the Nov 28 rankings, is (ignoring any home advantage for Brazil):
Spain Croatia Côte d'Ivoire Australia
Germany Chile France Korea Republic
Argentina USA Mexico Cameroon
Colombia England Bosnia-Herzegovina Japan
Portugal Greece Russia Iran
Uruguay Belgium Ecuador Honduras
Italy Brazil Ghana Nigeria
Switzerland Netherlands Algeria Costa Rica

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/

However, it's notable that the FIFA rankings are a bit dodgy - if you look at how much they've moved since the previous month (and the 7 seeds to head each group, along with Brazil, were based on the October rankings for some reason), you see Portugal climbed 9 places, and Belgium dropped 6; Mexico climbed 4, Bosnia dropped 5, and so on. With that much variation in a month, there may not be much point in putting too much faith in it (I think it's been criticised for not taking the strength of opposition enough into account). Just draw at random, and you may as well try to mix up continents to get matches you don't often get, just for interest.

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World Cup 2014 draw is out. [View all] DanTex Dec 2013 OP
USA in a group of death... yikes! JCMach1 Dec 2013 #1
England got royally screwed Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #2
I'd say Group E is a tin full of cupcakes. France got lucky, if one believes geek tragedy Dec 2013 #8
Ecuador and Switzerland are probably better than you're thinking... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #11
Maybe, I'm skeptical of both. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #12
Well, Spain was last World Champion, and Holland came in 2nd BlueCaliDem Dec 2013 #13
Ecuador does well in South American qualifying by playing at altitude at home muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #21
USA is going nowhere. zappaman Dec 2013 #3
Portugal is more vulnerable than they appear. Codeine Dec 2013 #28
That is one tough group nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #4
Mexico is darn lucky to even be there. Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #6
Oh trust me, the green mice will not fail to disappoint nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #10
I was surprised how poorly they were playing earlier this year. Ouch. Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #17
Our youngest son will be there rooting for us SoCalDem Dec 2013 #5
New FIFA President is French, and lo and behold geek tragedy Dec 2013 #7
not he uk, just england. dark horse could be croatia, depends what team turns up loli phabay Dec 2013 #31
We're completely f***ed LittleBlue Dec 2013 #9
Na musiclawyer Dec 2013 #14
Nate Silver really said that? DanTex Dec 2013 #15
Don't think so. All they have really is an aging Ronaldo TransitJohn Dec 2013 #25
Portugal isn't the powerhouse some people think. Codeine Dec 2013 #29
Nate is nowhere near as good at predicting sports as he is with politics Upton Dec 2013 #18
We were supposedly better four years ago than four years before then brentspeak Dec 2013 #24
"Bring em on" nevergiveup Dec 2013 #16
I call for an end to Groups of Death KamaAina Dec 2013 #19
because there are no tear in baseball or logic in soccer dembotoz Dec 2013 #20
Because they work to spread continents around the groups muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #22
In other words, they work hard to screw us because we're on a shitty continent KamaAina Dec 2013 #35
Nicely done! KamaAina Dec 2013 #36
Team USA will also be forced to travel 9,000 miles brentspeak Dec 2013 #23
They're international footballers, and one of the fittest teams on Earth. Codeine Dec 2013 #30
confused, where you getting nine thousand miles of travel from. loli phabay Dec 2013 #32
9178 miles, to be more accurate brentspeak Dec 2013 #33
okay thanks, long distances as long as tbey dont go by coach they will be fine. loli phabay Dec 2013 #34
usa is screwed madrchsod Dec 2013 #26
Go Indomitable Lions! Retrograde Dec 2013 #27
You're rooting against the USA KamaAina Dec 2013 #37
With Cameroon in Group A, and USA Group G, they can't meet before a semi-final muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #40
D'oh! I thought Ghana were the Indomitable Lions. KamaAina Dec 2013 #41
Ghana are the Black Stars brentspeak Dec 2013 #42
Don't count the USA out from advancing out of pool Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #38
I'm not counting Aquavit Dec 2013 #39
Second Round... Ron Obvious Dec 2013 #43
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