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In reply to the discussion: Florida Cop Arrested For Wearing ‘Anonymous’ Mask Warns ‘There’s A War Coming’ [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)116. More history, here....
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/design/2011/12/guy_fawkes_mask_how_anonymous_hacker_group_created_a_powerful_visual_brand.html
Six or eight people, Housh reckons, hashed out a press release. It read like the script to a movie trailer, so somebody proposed turning it into a video, combing Archive.org to dig up images of rolling clouds and ominous background music available under a Creative Commons license. They kept fiddling with the ending of the script, using Anonymous-associated phrases already in circulation. Another contributor proposed a conclusion: We are Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. Pause. Expect us.
Everyone in the channel erupts, Housh recalls. Like Oh my god. Youve done it. You have done it! We win this game. The script was fed into AT&T text-to-speech software, and became the videos creepy voice-over. Next the group created a Web site. For a logo, they considered imagery that had been floating around 4Chan and elsewhere, including the headless suit-man. SomeoneHoush says the person wishes to remain anonymoussuggested imposing that image over a U.N.-style globe logo. Then a question mark was added where the figures head should be. In what seems like a missed opportunity, the Anonymous logo did not appear anywhere in the video. We werent branding experts or anything, Housh explains.
Fair enough, but the video really is a fine bit of propagandawith 4.6 million YouTube viewsmixing the snotty but intimidating hacker gang vibe with rhetoric that not only transcended the nihilistic, but sounded rather righteous. Excited by their surprisingly large audience, participants in Anonymous anti-Scientology efforts decided to organize in-person protestsa challenge, since they were already being accused of various illegal activities. (The Church of Scientology eventually outed Housh, and pressed a variety of criminal charges against him; those were ultimately settled pretrial, but today he describes himself as an internet activist who observes Anonymousnot a member.)
The need to remain anonymous at live protests led the group to adopt its now-familiar mask depicting a highly stylized visage of Guy Fawkes, an early-17th-Century British figure who was executed following a foiled plot to assassinate King James I. Though Brits have long used effigies of Fawkes in their Guy Fawkes Night celebrations, this particular, cartoonish representation comes from the 1980s comic-book series, V for Vendetta: A vigilante character wore such a mask while overthrowing a totalitarian British government in an imagined dystopian future. In 2006, the series became a film. Also in 2006, the mask began to appear in a popular 4Chan meme called Epic Fail Guy. According to Housh, the suggestion to use the Fawkes mask as protest gear was almost immediate. But some Anons werent convinced that the Fawkes mask was right, so they made a short list of alternatives: a Batman mask, classic masquerade masks, a few others. Then we called comics and costume shops, all over the world, Housh says, checking availability and price, and the V mask won out: Its available, its cheap, and its in every city. (The actual Fawkes had nothing to do with it, for us, Housh says.)
An unexpected windfall for Warner Brothers, Incorporated!
Six or eight people, Housh reckons, hashed out a press release. It read like the script to a movie trailer, so somebody proposed turning it into a video, combing Archive.org to dig up images of rolling clouds and ominous background music available under a Creative Commons license. They kept fiddling with the ending of the script, using Anonymous-associated phrases already in circulation. Another contributor proposed a conclusion: We are Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. Pause. Expect us.
Everyone in the channel erupts, Housh recalls. Like Oh my god. Youve done it. You have done it! We win this game. The script was fed into AT&T text-to-speech software, and became the videos creepy voice-over. Next the group created a Web site. For a logo, they considered imagery that had been floating around 4Chan and elsewhere, including the headless suit-man. SomeoneHoush says the person wishes to remain anonymoussuggested imposing that image over a U.N.-style globe logo. Then a question mark was added where the figures head should be. In what seems like a missed opportunity, the Anonymous logo did not appear anywhere in the video. We werent branding experts or anything, Housh explains.
Fair enough, but the video really is a fine bit of propagandawith 4.6 million YouTube viewsmixing the snotty but intimidating hacker gang vibe with rhetoric that not only transcended the nihilistic, but sounded rather righteous. Excited by their surprisingly large audience, participants in Anonymous anti-Scientology efforts decided to organize in-person protestsa challenge, since they were already being accused of various illegal activities. (The Church of Scientology eventually outed Housh, and pressed a variety of criminal charges against him; those were ultimately settled pretrial, but today he describes himself as an internet activist who observes Anonymousnot a member.)
The need to remain anonymous at live protests led the group to adopt its now-familiar mask depicting a highly stylized visage of Guy Fawkes, an early-17th-Century British figure who was executed following a foiled plot to assassinate King James I. Though Brits have long used effigies of Fawkes in their Guy Fawkes Night celebrations, this particular, cartoonish representation comes from the 1980s comic-book series, V for Vendetta: A vigilante character wore such a mask while overthrowing a totalitarian British government in an imagined dystopian future. In 2006, the series became a film. Also in 2006, the mask began to appear in a popular 4Chan meme called Epic Fail Guy. According to Housh, the suggestion to use the Fawkes mask as protest gear was almost immediate. But some Anons werent convinced that the Fawkes mask was right, so they made a short list of alternatives: a Batman mask, classic masquerade masks, a few others. Then we called comics and costume shops, all over the world, Housh says, checking availability and price, and the V mask won out: Its available, its cheap, and its in every city. (The actual Fawkes had nothing to do with it, for us, Housh says.)
An unexpected windfall for Warner Brothers, Incorporated!
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Florida Cop Arrested For Wearing ‘Anonymous’ Mask Warns ‘There’s A War Coming’ [View all]
Purveyor
Dec 2013
OP
I know why he's protesting the ACA. I don't agree with him. Wonder if he listened to Beck or Rush...
freshwest
Dec 2013
#35
Wearing masks is against the law in many municipalities, except on particular nights of exception,
MADem
Dec 2013
#90
That's it, exactly--and the "ironic" crowd who are too cool for politics, and political
MADem
Dec 2013
#133
To say nothing of Paulbots and assorted libertarians, concerned about their own freedoms, but not
MADem
Dec 2013
#114
i picked the movie because THAT is when the mask took off in popularity
ProdigalJunkMail
Dec 2013
#76
Your memory is accurate--many more people know the film than are even aware that it was based on a
MADem
Dec 2013
#87
What I am is a Democrat who is interested in seeing more Democrats, and fewer Republicans, elected
MADem
Dec 2013
#142
Fit what bill? Being a Democrat who supports Democrats for election? That's a crime?
MADem
Dec 2013
#155
IIRC it became popular after the Occupy movement took off, so 2011 and after. nt
CJCRANE
Dec 2013
#99
“We weren’t branding experts or anything,” - one of the best unintentionally funny things I've read
KittyWampus
Dec 2013
#171
actually the graphic novel that movie was based on is terrific, and a critique of Thatcherism's
villager
Dec 2013
#127
well, the comic was the inspiration for the movie, and the mask design is straight
villager
Dec 2013
#138
the film is an adaptation, not an original work. So just like the many plays and
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#187
Symbols take on new meanings all the time. The Swastika used to mean something very different.
sibelian
Dec 2013
#206
People who would rather key their "edgy" protests off of a Warner Brothers film, without
MADem
Dec 2013
#78
But the purpose NOW is to identify those who take part in protests.
woo me with science
Dec 2013
#30
It's part of a bundle of anti-KKK statutes passed in the early 1950s:
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#23
I think saying "A war is coming" puts his behavior in applicable clause 3.
hootinholler
Dec 2013
#63
Ah! that dreaded Secret Directive Z, which requires inconvenient citizens to don Guy Fawkes masks,
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#128
"The corporate state" being, in this case, the Affordable Care Act
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#169
Thanks - that section 155 is crucial (on edit: also arrested for obstructing traffic)
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#170
Maybe not cops, but the people who affect those things aren't necessarily lefties, either. nt
MADem
Dec 2013
#83
Here's a nice photo from Florida in 1951, the year the law was put on the books
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#25
I have no problem with criminalizing masks when used in connection with an effort to intimidate
onenote
Dec 2013
#28
I wasn't there. If the matter goes to trial, a judge would have the jury decide the facts
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#45
Dunno. That might very well be. But I myself seldom think I really know the facts from a news story
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#118
My comment to you really has more to do with news stories: when there are several dozen
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#194
"They would not listen. They're not listening still. Perhaps they never will"
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#46
What justification is there for a cop to demand a person engaged in lawful conduct
onenote
Dec 2013
#37
as the material you cite indicate: absent reasonable suspicion that you're engaging in a criminal ac
onenote
Dec 2013
#43
If your sign says "There's a war coming" I think a reasonable person might think otherwise.
MADem
Dec 2013
#162
All the "The End Is Nigh" placard holders were intimidating you, were they?
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#172
Wow, snide much? "The end is nigh" is religious, "There's a war coming" suggests guns and ammo.
MADem
Dec 2013
#175
Fuck me, you're criticising someone else for being snide in this thread?
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#177
Get over yourself - I don't have any particular opinion about you
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#183
Bottom Line: the cop did not act properly in asking Guy Fawkes to identify himself
onenote
Dec 2013
#188
But you haven't demonstrated that this arrest has anything to do with either of those.
MADem
Dec 2013
#201
You haven't pointed to anything that suggests that the constitutional standard
onenote
Dec 2013
#204
I believe there was a Supreme Court case about this issue (identifying yourself to police)
Capt. Obvious
Dec 2013
#64
A little Florida history, for those who want to froth and foam about Florida's mask law:
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#27
taking up arms against socialism is almost mainstream in right-wing Republican circles now - pumped
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2013
#38
Armed man, in mask, wearing cape, warns folk of coming war, says it's time to fight, as a protest
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#140