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119. Welcome to DU, mkell33!
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 04:34 PM
Dec 2013

Good to have you with us! Yeah, old fart here, I'm afraid. I'm 60 this year. Tried to "hip it up" a little by redefining it as "Miss 60" riffing off the younger-skewed fashion line.

But yeah, I think we HAVE to speak up! We HAVE to tell the truth when so many elements around us are relentlessly not. And the media certainly isn't. Nowadays it's filled with the chuck todds who think it's not their job to straighten out the crooked lies and misleading talking points, or set the record straight. NO WONDER the electorate is so mis-informed. Nobody's willing to shed light anymore. I cling to the Rachel Maddow show and for the next few weeks also to Randi Rhodes on the radio - because KTLK here in Los Angeles will cease to be as of the new year. ClearChannel is shoving limbaugh and that-guy-whose-name-rhymes-with-VANITY and a whole bunch of sewer dwellers down our throats in a big programming change. HAH - they're packaging it as "The Patriot." What a joke.

I read somewhere that there's this approximate 80-year cycle in the national mindset or zeitgeist or whatever you want to call it. Eighty years. Things like Great Depressions and Great Recessions and Great Economic Collapses and Downturns happen approximately every 80 years. And it's thought to be mainly because nobody's around who remembers what happened that long ago. Nobody's around to remember, for example, how bad it was during the Great Depression, or what brought it on beforehand - the "Roaring 20s" when it was the free market on parade and sharks and pirates were running amok and there were no restrictions or controls or curbs to speak of, and it was hands-off big business and don't DARE do anything to stand in its way - let Big Business BE Big Business. (Kinda like the moldy oldie from the 80s - "Let reagan be reagan!&quot . And that led to the biggest economic disaster in our history.

And THAT, in turn, led to people beginning to wake up. And it started to dawn on at least some of 'em, back then, that regulations and restrictions and curbs on Wall Street and Big Capitalism so they could NOT be reckless and greedy and opportunistic with America's money anymore. And that, in turn, led to government stepping in and clamping down, and rescuing the foundering ship. THAT, in turn, led to the problems beginning to be solved, and the trouble beginning to ebb away. And you get long enough of that and soon THAT, in turn, leads to a sense of complacency that starts to build over the ensuing decades among those who DO want to be reckless and don't like being restricted. Then THEY, in turn, AND those around them who are just watching from the sidelines, start wondering WHY we gotta have somebody telling us what to do and government getting in our way and why do we need all these regulations and restrictions and limitations when things are just fine! Hey, nothing to see here! The problems are fixed. Solved! No worries! So why are we still restricted? Can't we get rid of these stupid laws that don't apply anymore because the issues that ruled when they were implemented no longer are there? Whaddo we need all this government interference for? Let's undo some of this shit! We don't need it anymore! Problem's solved! Take the shackles off! Let the free market go free again! Free market! Free market!

SOOOooooo... you ultimately start hearing the yowling and whining about how the government is bad and we should get the government off our backs and it isn't needed and it isn't necessary and the government is the problem and blah-blah-blah. And the general population starts to believe it because A) it sounds good and it seems to make sense; and B) THAT is mainly what they're hearing as the advocates start to rise in power and prominence.

Unfortunately for all of us, the late 70s became a perfect storm that begat the rise of ronald reagan. He rode in on this nauseating movement that started, I'm sorry to say, here in California with Prop 13, in 1978. I was working at the time and had ol' Howard Jarvis on the radio the election morning-after when it passed, which was a lucky break for a little ol' morning news lady like me to nab him after he was headed down the hall from the morning TV interview he'd just done (even though I realized I was only helping to spread the infection). And like a virus or drug-resistant flesh-eating bacteria, it spread across the country from here. }=(

It provided the surfboard ronald reagan rode in - on this huge tidal wave of CONservative trickle-down crap, and we have yet to pull ourselves out of it. I mean, look at the shit people are giving Pope Francis now, after he dared to denounce trickle-down. But he's absolutely correct. And it's about time my poor misguided church started taking a stand on what the REAL Jesus taught, as opposed to the Supply-Side Jesus abomination that these assholes cooked up for us.

It's gonna take us a generation to undo all the damage. scalia happened during ronald reagan. I remember covering it and thinking "what the hell is an 'Antonin'? Isn't it supposed to be Antoine or Antonio?" And anthony kennedy happened on reagan's watch, too - he who can pretty much always be counted on to be the swing (to the so-called "right&quot vote.

We have SUCH a huge reeducation and rehabilitation job ahead of us, to pull this misguided nation back from the extreme wrong-wing. And for so long our side was just absolutely asleep at the switch. A lot of times I've posted here talking about how important it is to protect the ground we've gained, build upon the gains we've made in whatever election just went our way. Because I've noticed that there's a very bad tendency on our side to get complacent, and assume that once we've started moving things toward the better, then that's all that's needed and it'll just somehow magically keep up that way. So we then can relax and go back to sleep. We let the ERA slip through our fingers. We let the peace movement slip through our fingers. Now we're at risk of letting a woman's right to choose slip through our fingers - look what's happening on THAT front these days?

The bad guys never dose off. They NEVER take their eye off the ball. They NEVER let down their guard and figure they've got this so they can relax for a little bit. WE'RE the ones that do that. It drives me CRAZY!!!!! WE'RE the ones who naively believe "the American people will see! They'll see what the truth is. They'll KNOW!" And the answer is "WRONG!!!!!!!!" They WON'T! Especially when there's such a virulent and powerful and never-ending pushback - in the now-powerful and entrenched wrong-wing media (that owns pretty much the whole game now) and big money backing all the bad guys, to make sure the general public stays blind. We're STILL there, what with the Dems ONLY NOW starting a PR offensive about the Affordable Care Act. SHIT! You guys just figured that out NOW??????? WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN????? That should have been undertaken several YEARS ago!!!!!! What were you thinking??? That just because this problem exists and people need affordable health care they'll just somehow magically SEE? FUCK THAT!!!

Something else I find myself posting a lot: I quote from Mad-Eye Moody in the Harry Potter books. Remember what he always warned Harry Potter? "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!!"

Sigh... enough. I've fulminated enough. Sorry to rant on. It's just that kind of day...

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K&R so we don't forget and Skidmore Dec 2013 #1
A POS like Cheney is an evil Racist with a damaged mind warrant46 Dec 2013 #24
The history of Reagan as an angry, right-wing asshole. hatrack Dec 2013 #105
for fuck's sake jollyreaper2112 Dec 2013 #2
No. eom DonViejo Dec 2013 #3
Eventually, like 10 or 20 years after everyone else is on board. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2013 #5
That's not being on the right side. That's being dragged along kicking and screaming. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #74
Only when they're trying to steal if for themselves. nm Cha Dec 2013 #97
They have not. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #12
Pretty much weissmam Dec 2013 #33
LOL Very good. cntrygrl Dec 2013 #89
Hence why this guy called Abe Lincoln PatrynXX Dec 2013 #123
Lincoln would've been teabagged right of today's GOP 47of74 Dec 2013 #125
not to my knowledge. barbtries Dec 2013 #44
At least a few of them have been, as this story shows. Orsino Dec 2013 #53
Explains a lot. Octafish Dec 2013 #4
They have not changed one bit. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #14
not really lapfog_1 Dec 2013 #67
And just to remind people that Ed Meese is still around... JHB Dec 2013 #20
Twenty years earlier, Meese led the crackdown on the Free Speech Movement starroute Dec 2013 #32
It's how the Actor got to play Governor Octafish Dec 2013 #57
typical RW behavior heaven05 Dec 2013 #95
And a reminder that the "Homeland" security nonsense DrDebug Dec 2013 #50
Bell appears, however, to be trying to exonerate Reagan. malthaussen Dec 2013 #49
Possibly. However, the guy did shine a spotlight on Pruneface that no PR can shield. Octafish Dec 2013 #56
Think of Meese as Reagan's Cheney... JHB Dec 2013 #63
Sure, but it's the blindness about the fellow at the top that intrigues me. malthaussen Dec 2013 #65
So the "Underlings" wielded the VETO and made the speech to the American people opposing sanctions? yellowcanine Dec 2013 #94
k&R disgusting Borchkins Dec 2013 #6
This was in the Butler iandhr Dec 2013 #7
thanks, landhr.. So looking forward to seeing that! nm Cha Dec 2013 #98
Sorry iandhr Dec 2013 #99
No, I'm sorry.. I don't see movies in Cha Dec 2013 #101
GOP Mourns Nelson Mandela, Won't Mention Reagan, Cheney, Religious Right Opposed Him Loup Garou Dec 2013 #8
Dixicrats turned Repub Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond yellowcanine Dec 2013 #93
When racism was no longer acceptable in the Democratic Party Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #112
"On behalf of the Republican Party, I send our deepest sympathies to the Mandela family..." pangaia Dec 2013 #122
This one few times in history... iandhr Dec 2013 #9
No, it really didn't. Read the South Africa chapter in "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein Hestia Dec 2013 #108
Do you know that it was the first foreign policy veto overruled in the 20th century malaise Dec 2013 #10
Reagan was a disastrous, reactionary President and we are still cleaning up his mess RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2013 #11
The funny thing jollyreaper2112 Dec 2013 #16
We have actually lost ground Cosmocat Dec 2013 #116
Sometimes, most people get it right. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #13
A bright moment in time when conscience over rode businss interests. marble falls Dec 2013 #15
He was a racist. rustbeltrefugee Dec 2013 #17
welcome to DU LittleGirl Dec 2013 #19
Don't forget that Reagan's first campaign speech after the 1980 nomination was near Philadelphia, MS bulloney Dec 2013 #21
and at that speech he played up the states rights dog whistle fishwax Dec 2013 #86
Welcome to DU, rustbeltrefugee! calimary Dec 2013 #26
Very well put The Blue Flower Dec 2013 #66
Spot on analysis of the Reagan years..... llmart Dec 2013 #92
What a relief mkell33 Dec 2013 #106
Welcome to DU, mkell33! calimary Dec 2013 #119
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Dec 2013 #41
Reagan opposed the Rumford Act, which banned discrimination in housing in CA. muntrv Dec 2013 #107
K & R for history! Thank you. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #18
This gives me TREMENDOUS satisfaction. SWEET as hell to read and savor! calimary Dec 2013 #22
And the public is still naming everything done in concrete after him--pardon me while I retch. kairos12 Dec 2013 #34
Pedantry alert: You "retch;" Reagan is a "wretch." That is all. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #70
Thanks for the correction. kairos12 Dec 2013 #82
The Wretch that makes you Retch. nm Cha Dec 2013 #100
Well MY particular fantasy, if I were in office in DC, would be about adding amendments calimary Dec 2013 #81
I would name one thing after him--that reactor at Chernobyl because of the all out destruction kairos12 Dec 2013 #84
That would be fitting. calimary Dec 2013 #85
And remember...the SA government were Nazi allies. Unrepentant ones. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #23
South Africa was a member of the British Commonwealth during WW2 LanternWaste Dec 2013 #45
Yes--let's look at the actual history. The National Party was allied with the Nazis. The National msanthrope Dec 2013 #52
Vocal support is quite different than an Alliance. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #59
Are we forgetting the Greyshirts? The SS Stuttgart? The Broederbond? msanthrope Dec 2013 #60
You mean Hertzog and company? They didn't last long. malthaussen Dec 2013 #47
No--I mean the The National Party. The Nazi sympathizers who were barely kept under control msanthrope Dec 2013 #54
Yes, a of Old Nazis ended up right here in the US among other places. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #68
I am intrigued at your defense of Reagan's attempts to engage the Nazi-sympathizing National Party. msanthrope Dec 2013 #69
You are often intrigued by your own fantasies. Pointing fingers at others while supporting sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #71
Sabrina, I do not know what Uzbeckistan has to do with this thread, but I like msanthrope Dec 2013 #75
I don't understand your opposition to support for dictators by others, but silence on sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #77
So...in the thread where I pointed out that Reagan constructively engaged with Nazi sympathizers, msanthrope Dec 2013 #78
Reagan constructively engaged every dictator he could find, in South America, the ME sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #87
Oh, Sabrina, you know I don't answer your questions. Uzbeckstan!!! Benghazi!!!..or wait... msanthrope Dec 2013 #88
No moral compass. moondust Dec 2013 #25
Ronald the Racist Reagan saynotoplutocrats Dec 2013 #27
Thanks for reminding us of that history - very important - northoftheborder Dec 2013 #28
Anyone who voted with Reagan still in office? LynnTTT Dec 2013 #29
Of those serving in the Senate at the time and now onenote Dec 2013 #58
If I could lower my opinion libodem Dec 2013 #30
Well, just remember what Hugo Chavez said - calimary Dec 2013 #31
It's why he is so afraid of death libodem Dec 2013 #43
Don't ever forget.... freebrew Dec 2013 #39
So true libodem Dec 2013 #42
Saint Ronald was a sack of shit upi402 Dec 2013 #35
Ronald Wilson Reagan truly was an evil POS Stainless Dec 2013 #36
Or was just the first president to be forced to take official notice of apartheid. Orsino Dec 2013 #55
Carter imposed military sanctions on South Africa blogslut Dec 2013 #79
sorry ... wrong spot. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #37
what can i say about Ronnie? rustbeltvoice Dec 2013 #38
The most overrated POTUS ever. nt tblue Dec 2013 #40
Whoa Mitch McConnell's quote at the end is great Johonny Dec 2013 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #48
Nice story. Octafish Dec 2013 #64
Raygun, JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #51
These are words to remember....they are a window into his soul young_at_heart Dec 2013 #61
Wow cilla4progress Dec 2013 #62
Change, if it were to come at all, would happen incrementally." Now, where have I heard this lately? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #72
They are always on the wrong side of history Marrah_G Dec 2013 #73
Reagan laid a wreath on Nazi graves at Bitburg. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #76
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder obama2terms Dec 2013 #111
Ted Cruz's Facebook page is filled with the most hateful, despicable comments I've read in a while catbyte Dec 2013 #80
Here's one to take y'all back to the day ... brett_jv Dec 2013 #83
love that album reddread Dec 2013 #102
wow, that was awful. woolldog Dec 2013 #117
I doubt many of these hate filled right-wing assholes santamargarita Dec 2013 #90
Yeah well some of us were pretty pissed also. yellowcanine Dec 2013 #91
Wow! Good on America.. I didn't know it had been Cha Dec 2013 #96
Nothing but a crap actor Mosaic Dec 2013 #103
thank you--good read k&r. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #104
I wasn't aware of this. Reagan was a sicker man than I thought., nt Incitatus Dec 2013 #109
And on an unfortunate side note RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2013 #110
He was a hateful, stupid man Vattel Dec 2013 #113
I think one of those who voted to override was Mitch McConnell. AuntFester Dec 2013 #114
"Change, if it were to come at all, would happen incrementally. " me b zola Dec 2013 #115
The real history of racist Reagan and shows that by terrorist, Cheney means people suffragette Dec 2013 #118
Reagan was wrong on just about everything. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #120
And these are the people "centrists" think we should play nice with. 99Forever Dec 2013 #121
Reagan was a racist asshole and an evil man that loved to watch people suffer. Rex Dec 2013 #124
If there ever was a guy more appropriately named............. Beacool Dec 2013 #126
James Baker is trying to spin this story and is not succeeding Gothmog Dec 2013 #127
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