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tritsofme

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81. Exactly, and TPA must explicitly grant the president power on labor and environmental issues

Sun Dec 8, 2013, 01:58 PM

Dec 2013

or those provisions would lose protection and could be struck out by Congress.

These issues were not covered under Bush-era TPA, that as you note passed with razor thin margins, which is important in understanding why not just TPA but a meaningful TPA is needed by the White House, and empowering Obama on labor and the environment especially, is an anathema to House Republicans.

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Here it comes: The Fast Track (TPA) freight train to shove the TPP down our throats [View all] cali Dec 2013 OP

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #1

No vote from me for anyone who supports the TPP. djean111 Dec 2013 #2

Alas, you're wrong. There are many in the dem party in Congress who support this shit cali Dec 2013 #3

I am accepting it, sadly. djean111 Dec 2013 #4

I am so hoping Bernie runs newfie11 Dec 2013 #13

And that says it all.. sendero Dec 2013 #18

You're correct, except that is is long past time. merrily Dec 2013 #7

"Anyone who does is actually a republican..." solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #6

And Obama wants it fast tracked. merrily Dec 2013 #8

Green for victory!! SidDithers Dec 2013 #39

Another completely content-free post from you. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #49

There's meaningful content to the poster that was addressed...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #56

I think they all pretty much play for the same team anymore. Puzzledtraveller Dec 2013 #52

I am sure this will work out for the states about as well as NAFTA did. Cue the Ross Perot video. silvershadow Dec 2013 #5

Screwn, blewn and tattoon Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #37

Aren't Sherrod Brown and Liz Warren on the Senate Banking Committee stuffmatters Dec 2013 #9

I sure as hell hope so. If this thing passes we're all fucked. n/t ZM90 Dec 2013 #26

"Bolstering the White House's position" =s bolstering special corporate interests' position. Divernan Dec 2013 #10

Congress is supposed to write bills that represent the people. It is so blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #73

Corporations/ALEC have been drafting bills for decades at state and federal levels. Divernan Dec 2013 #75

I think most people were not aware of this unless they were very involved politically, which sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #80

"Corporate trojan horse" from the trojan horse in the White House Divernan Dec 2013 #11

Kiss America goodby if this shit is passed. Nt newfie11 Dec 2013 #16

There's not much left as it is, but yes - nail in the coffin. polichick Dec 2013 #21

Your so right newfie11 Dec 2013 #34

Thanks for the link. ronnie624 Dec 2013 #50

Senator Bernie Sanders dotymed Dec 2013 #12

Either Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would do nicely. n/t ZM90 Dec 2013 #23

One of the best Democrats we have -- and he's not even a Democrat! Buns_of_Fire Dec 2013 #63

I've wondered if Obama's recent appearances with the populist talk about... polichick Dec 2013 #14

Probably a confusion tatic. ZM90 Dec 2013 #22

And Obama is so likeable - he's the pefect con man, though that idea is sickening. polichick Dec 2013 #25

The truth can be very sick sometimes polichick. ZM90 Dec 2013 #27

Yeah, and he's really too smart to be clueless so... polichick Dec 2013 #28

Yep. So FDR is turning over in his grave seeing what the leader of his party is doing. ZM90 Dec 2013 #31

He has somehow managed to get most Democrats to support a Right Wing solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #40

Wonder how he justifies it to himself. polichick Dec 2013 #47

Money justifies a whole lot for some people. historylovr Dec 2013 #59

So the community organizer succumbed to the promise of money... polichick Dec 2013 #61

Most of his campaign rhetoric, we now can see, was a "confusion tactic" villager Dec 2013 #53

You recognize the Kabuki. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #36

Not enough people will see it in time to... polichick Dec 2013 #46

at this point it's noh theater... MisterP Dec 2013 #67

That's his usual schtick. Same game he played with the "public option". Marr Dec 2013 #74

If the TPP is enacted watoos Dec 2013 #15

Fuck this shit. TPP is a assault on the first amendment and on worker's rights. ZM90 Dec 2013 #17

+infinity newfie11 Dec 2013 #20

"kills the sovereignty of the United States among any other nation that signs" magical thyme Dec 2013 #54

All trade deals need to be done right. "2/3 say greater US role in global economy pampango Dec 2013 #19

How many pages of this "agreement" (treaty is so 1850's) detail actual solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #30

Wrong question. That is akin to a push poll. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #35

The question "Do you favor or oppose new trade deals?" was not in this poll but has been before. pampango Dec 2013 #42

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #44

"Apparently the Tea Party can actually be right about a position." pampango Dec 2013 #64

The only issue I can agree with is the proposed trade deals. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #66

So did Chris Matthews ask Pres Obama postulater Dec 2013 #24

Nope, not at all. Ed Schultz seems to be the only MSNBC pundit that gives a fuck, sadly. n/t ZM90 Dec 2013 #29

Why is a POS bluedog Enthusiast Dec 2013 #32

Because they think the blue-dogs are the grown-ups in the room. It's tacit admission that Ed Suspicious Dec 2013 #38

K & R AzDar Dec 2013 #33

All the pretty speeches in the world don't amount to JACK SQUAT bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #41

I always suspected that they'd try to sneak this through during the holi-daze. marmar Dec 2013 #43

This is outrageous Chrom Dec 2013 #45

His inequality speech yesterday shows that one really should Autumn Dec 2013 #48

In a classic line by Marlon Brando in "One-Eyed Jacks" Divernan Dec 2013 #51

Wait, I'm confused. Populist minimum wage speeches AND TPP at the same time? NuclearDem Dec 2013 #55

Still only crickets from the media and almost nobody seems to even realize this is happening. pa28 Dec 2013 #57

I spoke with several long-time Dem Party activists this week... polichick Dec 2013 #62

and it freaks me out when you say that BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #69

I think it's a combination of people working long hours to make ends meet... polichick Dec 2013 #71

Investors pay for it & profit from it. Rest of us have to live with it. raouldukelives Dec 2013 #58

K & R historylovr Dec 2013 #60

Seems like there should be some Dem leaders fighting this loudly, but... polichick Dec 2013 #65

I remain skeptical that a TPA that is useful to the WH can pass the House tritsofme Dec 2013 #68

Republicans work for their masters. Those masters want to see the TPP passed. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #72

I agree. The idea that the House will give Obama enhanced power in a trade agreement which they fear pampango Dec 2013 #77

Both (D) and (R) platforms endorse the TPP solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #78

You look at the issue through a very general lense. tritsofme Dec 2013 #82

Exactly, and TPA must explicitly grant the president power on labor and environmental issues tritsofme Dec 2013 #81

Recommend jsr Dec 2013 #70

I was just thinking that depending on "public outcry" or "public opinion" is useless. And has djean111 Dec 2013 #76

Please some of this is satire polynomial Dec 2013 #79