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CK_John

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4. Basically yes, we don't have a very strong hand, go in any dry goods store and we don't make many

Reply to Warren DeMontague (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 8, 2013, 10:13 PM

Dec 2013

of those items. Until we do we are a net importer.

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For the 1946 mindset harping about the TPP, they should learn to count first. [View all] CK_John Dec 2013 OP

Unfortunately, we have no unrec to lose... n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2013 #1

+100 truebluegreen Dec 2013 #2

It is times like this that a unrec was VERY useful karynnj Dec 2013 #31

So what you're saying, then, is that we need TPP? Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #3

Basically yes, we don't have a very strong hand, go in any dry goods store and we don't make many CK_John Dec 2013 #4

The United States is the world's second largest manufacturer of goods, a few years ago Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #22

what people often don't understand is that despite decades of offshoring, we still manufacture TONS dionysus Dec 2013 #42

GIVE ME YOUR TPP NuclearDem Dec 2013 #10

if it was the transparent trans pacific partnership "agreement" solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #5

It boils down to we need them more than they us, and they are setting the terms, CK_John Dec 2013 #7

+++++++++ librechik Dec 2013 #13

How many agreements are made per year? Hundreds? More? randome Dec 2013 #18

How many? Of this reach and scope? Zero. tkmorris Dec 2013 #39

Excellent Post and Read...Welcome to DU! KoKo Dec 2013 #33

Sure. Those billions of Chinese and Indians in concentration camps (Apple factories) sure have sway NoOneMan Dec 2013 #6

Ha, you think TPP is actually about trade. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #8

Corporations over Nations jsr Dec 2013 #12

Bill, is that you? Go back to Hillary and tell her you fell off the wagon again. X_Digger Dec 2013 #9

... Javaman Dec 2013 #11

Are you saying we can't compete? nt bemildred Dec 2013 #14

Compete in what? How fast we buy their stuff? China just sold their own people 1 million bicycles. CK_John Dec 2013 #15

Can you state the percentage by which China tops the US in manufacturing? We are second Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #19

Ah, we don't compete. Quite. nt bemildred Dec 2013 #20

How would the TPP stave off economic ruin for awhile? Lasher Dec 2013 #16

A system that is not self sufficient like ours can not succeed. CK_John Dec 2013 #21

We are not a system, we are a nation and no nation has ever been fully self sufficent. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #23

Then if we cannot succeed, why bother? Lasher Dec 2013 #25

They have been at this since 2007 and still no agreement. Also I'm not in on the CK_John Dec 2013 #34

So if we don't know anything yet about the TPP then why support it? Blind faith? Lasher Dec 2013 #44

this 'we produce very little' meme runs counter to the fact that the US is the second largest Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #17

No one in the US makes a bicycle, go to Sears, Walmart, Dollar stores and tells CK_John Dec 2013 #24

There are bikes made in the US, there are no bikes at the Dollar Store. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #32

Actually, lots of bicycles are made in the US. jeff47 Dec 2013 #43

...and we're the third largest exporter in the world bhikkhu Dec 2013 #40

Second largest manufacturer by dollar value, or by volume? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #41

The US does manufacture a lot of 'stuff.' PDJane Dec 2013 #26

All of that for a lousy 20 cents?? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #27

I know there's a progressive way and a conservative way.... Iggo Dec 2013 #28

Bringing our factories back home is good for America. Right? grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #29

Have you read it? If so, please share. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #30

Limiting governments' ability to regulate LiberalAndProud Dec 2013 #35

What specifically in the TPP is beneficial? Bradical79 Dec 2013 #36

Considering that you and everyone else has no fucking idea what is actually SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #37

I'm going to say the same thing I said to the last 5 TPP evangelists... Chan790 Dec 2013 #38

Since all the delegates and our government are conducting all Cleita Dec 2013 #45