I just watched MM's "Sicko" for the first time, and something immediately struck me...

[sibelian]

34. Yeah... you see, they are going... to... DIE.

I haven't seena nyone on this website or in any other left-leaning site anywhere look that one flat in the face.

Big Pharma, medical insurance... every step closer to Universal healthare rots their market away PERMANENTLY.

They can't afford NOT to fight public healthcare. They have to. It's their very surivival on the line. There is no way they can sit back and allow it happen. EVery dirty trick they can pull out WILL BE USED. Of COURSE it will.

The most significant factor in the healthcare debate isn't the president or any individual stories aout websites or insurance failure or the habits of other countries (although those factors are of course significant), the most important thing to talk about, as far as I can see, is to get the influence of the insurance companies on the debate OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY. Wherever its dirty, slithery little trails of slime can be found. Smoke the shits out.

As far as I'm concerned, activists should be looking at every lobbyist going into Washigntom and demanding that anyone connected with healthcare insurance be banned from Washington or at least every visit should be logged somewhere and shown the American public with big banners on it saying "THE BIG MONEY BOYS WANT YOUR BODY'S WELLBEING DECIDED BY THEM". as publically as possible.

Private companies have no inherent right to discuss how policy affects their profits with democratically elected officials. It's just plain WRONG. If they go under, that's just tough. That's how business is SUPPOSED TO WORK. When the market changes, either the business changes or a new business emerges. It's not even good econimocs to support failing models.

I want mugshots.