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PDJane

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26. The US does manufacture a lot of 'stuff.'

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:37 AM

Dec 2013

The problem is that it mostly doesn't manufacture consumer goods anymore. It manufactures guns, military weaponry, helmets, troop carriers, etc.

This is, of course, the reason that the US gets into so many wars and arms so many dictatorships; it allows a better balance of trade. Time to get out of the business of war.

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For the 1946 mindset harping about the TPP, they should learn to count first. [View all] CK_John Dec 2013 OP

Unfortunately, we have no unrec to lose... n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2013 #1

+100 truebluegreen Dec 2013 #2

It is times like this that a unrec was VERY useful karynnj Dec 2013 #31

So what you're saying, then, is that we need TPP? Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #3

Basically yes, we don't have a very strong hand, go in any dry goods store and we don't make many CK_John Dec 2013 #4

The United States is the world's second largest manufacturer of goods, a few years ago Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #22

what people often don't understand is that despite decades of offshoring, we still manufacture TONS dionysus Dec 2013 #42

GIVE ME YOUR TPP NuclearDem Dec 2013 #10

if it was the transparent trans pacific partnership "agreement" solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #5

It boils down to we need them more than they us, and they are setting the terms, CK_John Dec 2013 #7

+++++++++ librechik Dec 2013 #13

How many agreements are made per year? Hundreds? More? randome Dec 2013 #18

How many? Of this reach and scope? Zero. tkmorris Dec 2013 #39

Excellent Post and Read...Welcome to DU! KoKo Dec 2013 #33

Sure. Those billions of Chinese and Indians in concentration camps (Apple factories) sure have sway NoOneMan Dec 2013 #6

Ha, you think TPP is actually about trade. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #8

Corporations over Nations jsr Dec 2013 #12

Bill, is that you? Go back to Hillary and tell her you fell off the wagon again. X_Digger Dec 2013 #9

... Javaman Dec 2013 #11

Are you saying we can't compete? nt bemildred Dec 2013 #14

Compete in what? How fast we buy their stuff? China just sold their own people 1 million bicycles. CK_John Dec 2013 #15

Can you state the percentage by which China tops the US in manufacturing? We are second Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #19

Ah, we don't compete. Quite. nt bemildred Dec 2013 #20

How would the TPP stave off economic ruin for awhile? Lasher Dec 2013 #16

A system that is not self sufficient like ours can not succeed. CK_John Dec 2013 #21

We are not a system, we are a nation and no nation has ever been fully self sufficent. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #23

Then if we cannot succeed, why bother? Lasher Dec 2013 #25

They have been at this since 2007 and still no agreement. Also I'm not in on the CK_John Dec 2013 #34

So if we don't know anything yet about the TPP then why support it? Blind faith? Lasher Dec 2013 #44

this 'we produce very little' meme runs counter to the fact that the US is the second largest Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #17

No one in the US makes a bicycle, go to Sears, Walmart, Dollar stores and tells CK_John Dec 2013 #24

There are bikes made in the US, there are no bikes at the Dollar Store. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #32

Actually, lots of bicycles are made in the US. jeff47 Dec 2013 #43

...and we're the third largest exporter in the world bhikkhu Dec 2013 #40

Second largest manufacturer by dollar value, or by volume? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #41

The US does manufacture a lot of 'stuff.' PDJane Dec 2013 #26

All of that for a lousy 20 cents?? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #27

I know there's a progressive way and a conservative way.... Iggo Dec 2013 #28

Bringing our factories back home is good for America. Right? grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #29

Have you read it? If so, please share. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #30

Limiting governments' ability to regulate LiberalAndProud Dec 2013 #35

What specifically in the TPP is beneficial? Bradical79 Dec 2013 #36

Considering that you and everyone else has no fucking idea what is actually SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #37

I'm going to say the same thing I said to the last 5 TPP evangelists... Chan790 Dec 2013 #38

Since all the delegates and our government are conducting all Cleita Dec 2013 #45