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Aerows

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171. Thanks, I hadn't read the article as thoroughly as I should have
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:14 PM
Dec 2013

These lunatics that push their own products like Mercola convince people that modern medicine isn't as effective as their quack products, and should be ashamed of themselves. For every million children saved by something as simple as a Vitamin K injection, there's probably one complication that has nothing whatsoever to do with the injection itself, but a mitigating factor.

The anti-vaccination people are going to bring long-since managed diseases back to plague all of us. If you are dumb enough to listen to a quack on the internet instead of medical providers, you are bringing it on yourself, and unfortunately the rest of us, too.

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Isn't there some way to stop people like that? enlightenment Dec 2013 #1
A court would probably say he is within his 1st amendment rights to spew this BS iandhr Dec 2013 #30
This is how our healthcare system is so screwed up. Doctors don't explain shit to women honestly. kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #32
No this comes down to ranking on places like Google MattBaggins Dec 2013 #63
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #80
Not really, especially when so many believe his nonsense. Many can be found right here on DU. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #191
So many idiots sharp_stick Dec 2013 #2
I feel a little more kindly toward the "idiots" etherealtruth Dec 2013 #3
Yes, 'A sucker born every minute.' elleng Dec 2013 #14
Well, since the taxpayers are likely to foot the bill for the results of this.... Turbineguy Dec 2013 #4
Mercola was the major funder of California's failed Prop 37 Retrograde Dec 2013 #7
Actually, that's incorrect. Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #29
That is pretty funny. Mercola gave 1.2 million, Monsanto 8 million. Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #96
Wow! I couldn't believe when Prop 37 failed emsimon33 Dec 2013 #128
What "facts" exactly are you speaking of? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #148
I want my food labeled katsy Dec 2013 #156
You're comparing a known, proven food allergy to something that, in spite of loads of research... eqfan592 Dec 2013 #177
Science gets better over time katsy Dec 2013 #184
Nobody IS depriving you of that right. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #190
Label it katsy Dec 2013 #195
Provide evidence that it's a harmful product worthy of a specific label. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #196
My demonstrating its harmful katsy Dec 2013 #200
What hyperbolic garbage. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #201
Their conclusions not mine. katsy Dec 2013 #203
More false equivalency. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #204
An opinion piece. I don't care what they say katsy Dec 2013 #205
Unless you can provide evidence that what is in your food is being hidden... eqfan592 Dec 2013 #206
I want kosher label I want GMO label katsy Dec 2013 #207
You do know there are GMO organic foods, right? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #211
Address my issues katsy Dec 2013 #213
So calling hyperbole is akin to an insult? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #216
apparently the fact that the proposition in question doesn't ban GMO foods magical thyme Dec 2013 #164
True. So why the constant push to make ever more and dumber examples? n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #22
Kicking for more exposure etherealtruth Dec 2013 #5
double kick Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #23
Need to make this a Google bomb MattBaggins Dec 2013 #66
Why aren't the parents in jail for abuse? Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #6
What fraud? nt kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #33
Parents of "Accidental Shootings" Don't Go To Jail otohara Dec 2013 #162
Yet they should, for neglect, which is what all of this is... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #167
and the resident woo beleivers will be here in 3.. 2.. 1... dionysus Dec 2013 #8
Yeah, the age of autism gang, etc. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #38
At Sun Dec 8, 2013, 07:39 PM an alert was sent on the following post: In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #64
... Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #65
yup In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #68
Juror #3 you rock! Alerter, do follow juror's advice. Did I mention your alert really sucks? idwiyo Dec 2013 #91
Good grief--apparently the alerter doesn't realize that a "personal" attack MADem Dec 2013 #152
Plausible deniability (playing dumb) is a trick of the trade by some and a waste of time to contest. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #168
That's not "plausible deniability" though--those are just general statements. MADem Dec 2013 #185
Lol, nice. n/t X_Digger Dec 2013 #192
Mercola cited by me? No, not once, check it out. (This would've been a read-only thread if not 4you) proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #100
My predictive powers are exceeded only by my ability Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #104
Are you a wizard?...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #109
Nobody beats me. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #134
TLDR--and you're waaaaaay over the four paragraph limit, there. MADem Dec 2013 #153
It's not copyright material, so the 4-paragraph limit isn't applicable, correct? proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #154
You got it off a website, correct?? Copyright © 2012 THE GREATER GOOD Movie MADem Dec 2013 #155
Better? proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #161
Better for you and better for DU. MADem Dec 2013 #186
don't forget flouride and chemtrails.... dionysus Dec 2013 #102
Good god. Some parents ordering oral Vit K from the internet! mainer Dec 2013 #9
You would be surprised. Butterbean Dec 2013 #13
That is insane!!! Accept natural death over unnatural lifesaving measures? mainer Dec 2013 #15
Yep. There was a live birth, thankfully. The doctor was just beside himself. n/t Butterbean Dec 2013 #59
Squawk... Natural... Squawk.... Natural MattBaggins Dec 2013 #69
There's also a peer pressure sentiment in some motherhood circles Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #131
Yep, the mommy wars are rife with that crap. Butterbean Dec 2013 #132
YIKES! kdmorris Dec 2013 #147
HOLY CRAP, 37w5d TWINS that were both OVER 8LBS? Butterbean Dec 2013 #151
Frankly, we were surprised at their weight kdmorris Dec 2013 #194
Stanford University recommends the oral form for infants pnwmom Dec 2013 #37
Oral K is better than nothing, but it requires three doses mainer Dec 2013 #58
I am really lucky, have never had this happen to me in the wagon. littlewolf Dec 2013 #145
Ah, Mercola again... MineralMan Dec 2013 #10
I have precious little respect for the supporters of Dr. Woowoo. backscatter712 Dec 2013 #17
Good grief. HappyMe Dec 2013 #11
Anyone who believes in woo over science is an idiot. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #12
Mercola is clearly a dangerous idiot. But I do have a question. kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #16
Vitamin K does not cross the placenta etherealtruth Dec 2013 #19
Nature designed us for about 30% infant/childhood mortality. jeff47 Dec 2013 #24
Yes, we forget how brutal Mother Nature truly is mainer Dec 2013 #28
There is a theory about early cord clamping laundry_queen Dec 2013 #45
I delayed cord clamping and still did the vitamin K too gollygee Dec 2013 #92
Designed? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #73
Good lord. Ok: we EVOLVED to survive. So how does kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #106
We also evolved Nevernose Dec 2013 #113
Even with the list you gave we are far better off then 100 years ago Marrah_G Dec 2013 #121
We're far better off than we were 20 years ago Nevernose Dec 2013 #126
Wow! Marrah_G Dec 2013 #146
Nature designed us to have a 20-50% mortality rate for under-5 year olds. eridani Dec 2013 #125
Nail hit head...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #144
I was born with a genetic blood disorder Factor 5 where my blood clots too doc03 Dec 2013 #18
Not the case here: Sinistrous Dec 2013 #25
It's a probability issue. jeff47 Dec 2013 #27
Factor 5 isn't that unusual, so I'm not sure you're right. pnwmom Dec 2013 #39
This doesn't agree with the Israeli data mainer Dec 2013 #56
130/100,000 is the same as 1.3/1000 or .13/100. So fewer than Factor 5. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #72
The newborn death rate from Factor 5 is 130/100,000? mainer Dec 2013 #78
I am unable to find any data about neonatal deaths from Factor V mainer Dec 2013 #81
That's not the question. pnwmom Dec 2013 #83
I am looking into it. I think Vitamin K affects a different part of the clotting cycle mainer Dec 2013 #93
All I know is that they give Coumadin to people with Factor 5. pnwmom Dec 2013 #99
I did find this citation mainer Dec 2013 #108
Thanks! pnwmom Dec 2013 #110
I think the 130/100,000 DEATH RATE shows you how prevalent mainer Dec 2013 #103
mainer: You seem to be knowledgeable about this Factor V doc03 Dec 2013 #90
I'm not a hematologist. But it seems that clotting can occur at any time in your life mainer Dec 2013 #97
Factor V is what's called "co-dominant" jeff47 Dec 2013 #118
They now give pregnant women with the Factor V gene blood thinner shots, blue neen Dec 2013 #67
My daughter had one of those shots pnwmom Dec 2013 #70
I am so sorry to hear that. blue neen Dec 2013 #76
Thanks, blue neen! pnwmom Dec 2013 #88
You mean pregnant women get medical care?! Astounding! Lars39 Dec 2013 #160
You missed the part about family history and genetic testing. jeff47 Dec 2013 #117
No one asked about this before they gave my son the Vitamin K shot. pnwmom Dec 2013 #119
Because it increases the probability, there should be some part of the tree with problems. jeff47 Dec 2013 #120
But think how common heart disease is, and how many of deaths pnwmom Dec 2013 #123
The patient doesn't have to be aware. jeff47 Dec 2013 #124
I know that's what one poster argued, but I don't think that was pnwmom Dec 2013 #127
Your excerpt doesn't conflict with the shot not affecting Factor 5. jeff47 Dec 2013 #135
8% isn't that rare. And there are other mutations that put the overall pnwmom Dec 2013 #136
You're confusing the sickle-cell disease with the genes. jeff47 Dec 2013 #138
If given a choice, always choose a blood clot over a hemorrhage. Barack_America Dec 2013 #140
Here's an interesting paper: infant coagulation different from adults mainer Dec 2013 #158
Doctor of exactly what and where is he licensed to "practice"? SoapBox Dec 2013 #20
Israeli experience: drastic drop in deaths with Vit K administration mainer Dec 2013 #21
Big K & R for visibility TransitJohn Dec 2013 #26
What I really hate about Dr. Mercola is that so often his woo hedgehog Dec 2013 #31
How about on Facebook MattBaggins Dec 2013 #74
What is the excuse? Vitamin K causes Autism I guess nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #34
Could it be a concern about the preservative? Couldn't they just use pnwmom Dec 2013 #36
And in the meantime how many kids will die unecessary deaths? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #40
I'm not suggesting people not give newborns Vitamin K. pnwmom Dec 2013 #41
Because there is no harm in it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #42
That doesn't answer my question. pnwmom Dec 2013 #43
They are available in single dose form at the doctor's office nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #46
b s Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #129
Every vit K shot and hep B shot we give to newborns at every hospital Butterbean Dec 2013 #130
I have, different national health system I suppose nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #163
You worked L&D too? I thought you did EMS. I must be confused. Butterbean Dec 2013 #173
I guess the Mexican Healht System works EXACTLY as the American system does nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #180
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh-kay.................... Butterbean Dec 2013 #181
What I wrote, and YOU WENT OVER THE EDGE nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #183
LOL. Okee doke, you keep on having a hissy fit there. n/t Butterbean Dec 2013 #187
Now this is down right comedic nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #188
Nadin, honey, I'm just gonna let you keep yelling. Butterbean Dec 2013 #189
Exactly honey who is yelling? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #193
Because a blood test is just as invasive, and requires more time to process results. Butterbean Dec 2013 #71
We learned about Factor 5 the hard way. pnwmom Dec 2013 #75
Yeah, I've had a few patients with it. Butterbean Dec 2013 #77
I checked the pediatric literature. They do not recommend routine neonatal Factor V screening mainer Dec 2013 #82
It's too bad there isn't some cost effective way for everyone pnwmom Dec 2013 #85
I agree, I have seen some very scary things happen at work due to Butterbean Dec 2013 #89
My case of DVT in my 7th month was almost missed. pnwmom Dec 2013 #95
I could talk a blue streak about stuff like that, but we haven't got all night. LOL. Butterbean Dec 2013 #101
That is the one major lesson I've learned over the decades. pnwmom Dec 2013 #114
Amen, and well said. Facepalm about the celiac ignorant oncologist. Yikes. n/t Butterbean Dec 2013 #122
Same here I had two cases of DVT now I have a Greenfield doc03 Dec 2013 #94
I wonder if you're taking any other drug that increases your risk pnwmom Dec 2013 #98
I had radiation for an eye tumor a year before I started having clots doc03 Dec 2013 #105
There's no comparing a cerebral hemorrhage to a peripheral clot. Barack_America Dec 2013 #141
Great one, Nadine. longship Dec 2013 #133
Hucksters really, and I mean this, really get my goat nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #166
There is no concern about the preservative Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #47
The power of hucksters I say nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #48
Thanks. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #50
Actually, if there is an autism concern, Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #139
It's a cancer concern...that has been as thoroughly disproven... Barack_America Dec 2013 #142
I saw both concerns mentioned in the article - Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #150
Woo is bad. Deadly, even. But I think there's a reason it's on the rise. Nine Dec 2013 #35
Our major media is mostly to blame. Archae Dec 2013 #44
Doctor Oz anyone? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #79
Fuck Mercola and his death-causing woo. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #49
Psycho emotional damage? He's even more full of shit than usual. Warpy Dec 2013 #51
I thought we had reached a point in civilization loyalsister Dec 2013 #116
Idiots Lithos Dec 2013 #52
Anyone reading his newsletter can see Celebration Dec 2013 #53
And, just by coincidence, he SELLS vitamin K NickB79 Dec 2013 #62
No Oral dosing is not the way to go. MattBaggins Dec 2013 #84
Goddamn those fucking quacks! Aristus Dec 2013 #54
Fuck mercola and all the other woo peddlers... SidDithers Dec 2013 #55
I heard this kind of thing a lot when I was pregnant gollygee Dec 2013 #57
As soon as someone utters the word "natural" MattBaggins Dec 2013 #86
Many of you don't remember the bad old days. I do. mainer Dec 2013 #60
I'm amazed. I knew about Vitamin K and clotting. When did they start giving them to newborns? freshwest Dec 2013 #137
Since about 1961 mainer Dec 2013 #157
Thanks. A friend's daughter had the PKU problem. It's a big deal. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #170
Every time someone links to that asshole Mercolas site MattBaggins Dec 2013 #61
k&r There must be some way to stop thar murderous bastard Mercola. idwiyo Dec 2013 #87
It's like the fucking autism link that was made years ago sakabatou Dec 2013 #107
I am so happy I am old HockeyMom Dec 2013 #111
........what are you even talking about? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #149
I would not want to be a young pregnant woman in 2013 HockeyMom Dec 2013 #169
Pregnancy is the most dangerous thing a young woman will go through mainer Dec 2013 #175
You do understand that testing is amazingly helpful, right? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #178
Like a sonogram EVERY MONTH starting at 6 weeks? HockeyMom Dec 2013 #208
Was she a high risk pregnancy? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #210
No HockeyMom Dec 2013 #212
Is she overweight? that was a factor for us. nt eqfan592 Dec 2013 #217
Why not? Young pregnant women are more aware of the risks, and compared to older... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #198
My daughter was a breech in 1979 HockeyMom Dec 2013 #209
Do you have a point? n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #215
Mercola get the red out Dec 2013 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #143
I know this guy is a menace Aerows Dec 2013 #159
It's already been posted uptread that vitamin K does not cross the placenta. LisaL Dec 2013 #165
Thanks, I hadn't read the article as thoroughly as I should have Aerows Dec 2013 #171
It does pass into breastmilk though. nt laundry_queen Dec 2013 #221
YES, CHOOSE, ob-gyn or bad info. How's this question going to shake out among posters on the thread? proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #172
Related. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #174
Oh please Aerows Dec 2013 #176
Missed my point totally. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #179
Did we get these shots in the 40's and 50's? WinkyDink Dec 2013 #182
No, and the infant mortality and disability rates reflected that. n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #197
Oh. Well, we must have had a lot of births, becoming the largest generation. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #202
Didn't get them in the 70s or 80s either HockeyMom Dec 2013 #214
Actually yes it did, for example: Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #218
My kids were born in NYC HockeyMom Dec 2013 #219
Question, did I make that claim? n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #220
I don't really understand your disdain for modern medicine. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #222
That's because it secretly poisoning us, that's why we live longer and healthier than we ever have.. Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #223
Kick for "scientific materialism"... SidDithers Dec 2013 #199
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