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Glassunion

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67. Ok. So I read your post wrong.

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:59 PM

Dec 2013

I read it as a general statement, and applied the language to myself. For that I am sorry.

That said, and after reading it again, I feel that there are too many unique circumstances in order to pigeonhole it into one of 3 responses. There are too many factors at play. Some of which may make the circumstances easier to overcome.

So you grew up poor, and disadvantaged. Me too. Does the fact that you grew up white, aid you in overcoming those disadvantages? Hard to say, as you made no mention of if you did or did not overcome them, and how you did or did not. There are a lot of things that attributed to me overcoming mine that cannot be attributed to the color of my skin, and others that can, and none of which fit easily into one of three single answers.

As to me arguing for more guns in school... Horseshit.

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I'm a white person who grew up with significant disadvantages, however if I were black... [View all] CreekDog Dec 2013 OP

With respect, this poll is too vague and leaves much open to speculation. badtoworse Dec 2013 #1

I agree MissMillie Dec 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Dec 2013 #5

Oh please. Get over yourself CreekDog Dec 2013 #4

I thought I said that in my post badtoworse Dec 2013 #7

yes, they would CreekDog Dec 2013 #8

I'll think of you when I see that argument being made here badtoworse Dec 2013 #9

I would hfojvt Dec 2013 #63

I think you are over-analyzing this badtoworse Dec 2013 #132

but the statement is not about two people hfojvt Dec 2013 #142

You are certainly making valid points badtoworse Dec 2013 #150

I had to google Geno hfojvt Dec 2013 #163

When I saw the Jet's logo, I assumed you were a fan badtoworse Dec 2013 #164

Hellz yeah. It was easier to get out of a trailer park riqster Dec 2013 #2

Because I'm white, it's easier to pass. BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #35

No matter how disadvantaged you were, I can guarantee before Cleita Dec 2013 #6

Nonsense. riqster Dec 2013 #42

+1 the law did not contribute to that. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #49

If you say so. However, if you are of a certain age and was in the work Cleita Dec 2013 #53

Your post said that the laws raised the bar for AA workers. riqster Dec 2013 #56

Call BS on it then. You aren't the first who refuse to believe that Cleita Dec 2013 #57

Confusing. riqster Dec 2013 #58

Don't bother to reply to this. Cleita Dec 2013 #59

Shrug. riqster Dec 2013 #61

I think her point was that pre-affirmative action, there was no reason needed Gormy Cuss Dec 2013 #71

Plausible. Thanks! riqster Dec 2013 #73

Thank you. That's what I meant. Cleita Dec 2013 #103

You are right. I have witnessed racial and gender discrimination. The people that bluestate10 Dec 2013 #96

People don't want to believe it exists because it's Cleita Dec 2013 #102

It is there and it is a scourge that any person running a company that wants the company bluestate10 Dec 2013 #107

I am a white person who grew up with precious few disadvantages... MadrasT Dec 2013 #10

I spent years attempting to explain white privilege to the mr.... me b zola Dec 2013 #11

If Barack Obama had been born white, would he have still become president? Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #12

wow, another white person (I'm white too), who thinks the exception proves the rule CreekDog Dec 2013 #13

Are you implying that he was aided by his skin color? Gormy Cuss Dec 2013 #14

Why not? Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #15

So, Nye, you praise Thatcher, say that Obama got elected because he was black... CreekDog Dec 2013 #17

+1000 JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #51

Most certainly treestar Dec 2013 #26

Because it's so easy to become president when you're black Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #27

What's your freeper handle? Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #28

If Barack was white CFLDem Dec 2013 #29

agreed, it would have been Hillary n/t Bacchus4.0 Dec 2013 #36

Hypotheses are not truth. They are possibly true. Nt. riqster Dec 2013 #43

No CFLDem Dec 2013 #45

Nevertheless, all you have is an opinion based on a hypothesis. riqster Dec 2013 #46

Weak truth CFLDem Dec 2013 #47

Still, neither is a valid truth, because neither has supporting data. riqster Dec 2013 #48

Barak Obama wouldnt be Barak Obama if he was white. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #50

Barack CreekDog Dec 2013 #123

hmmm, sounds like there's some good logic in this... I wanted total opposite of Bush too uponit7771 Dec 2013 #143

I would wager, yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #30

yes gollygee Dec 2013 #32

With his biography sans, certainly yes. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #108

The biggest factor in determining future wealth is the wealth of your parents Taitertots Dec 2013 #16

it is inequality, but it is also race CreekDog Dec 2013 #18

Do you think disadvantaged groups benefit by having a tiny cabal of them join the 0.1%? Taitertots Dec 2013 #19

why are you arguing with me? racism is still with us in institutional and other ways CreekDog Dec 2013 #20

Do you really believe this? gollygee Dec 2013 #34

Holy shit Number23 Dec 2013 #22

I love when I fall down JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #52

Yeah, but it was SATURDAY when I typed that post! Number23 Dec 2013 #74

While true, you ignore the racial distribution of wealth Scootaloo Dec 2013 #77

White privilege definitely exists. We can't *know* what the path not taken looks like, however... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #21

there are cultural differences between white and black that shape how we react to things? CreekDog Dec 2013 #23

Nope. That's not what was written. Here: NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #24

In a question about black and white, he refers to cultural explanation CreekDog Dec 2013 #25

So... I answered your question. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #75

There was a thought provoking article posted on the topic here about a week ago. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #37

Thanks for the link greatlaurel Dec 2013 #40

White people can never understand the racism non-whites undergo on a daily basis HipChick Dec 2013 #31

That is getting more and more obvious gollygee Dec 2013 #33

I got a lol out of this post. Glassunion Dec 2013 #38

you can take part in this poll, if you cannot, that is your own limitation CreekDog Dec 2013 #39

I'm not upset in the least. It gave me a good chuckle at the irony. That's all. Glassunion Dec 2013 #55

I didn't say you were upset CreekDog Dec 2013 #60

I could, however it would be a lie for me to answer the poll. Glassunion Dec 2013 #62

quit with the bullshit, the poll isn't limited to any racial or ethnic group CreekDog Dec 2013 #64

Oh for fuck sakes, lighten up. Glassunion Dec 2013 #65

you're disrupting this thread CreekDog Dec 2013 #66

Ok. So I read your post wrong. Glassunion Dec 2013 #67

you disrupted, you misread the post then spammed the thread with nonsense CreekDog Dec 2013 #68

I disrupted? Glassunion Dec 2013 #69

you disrupted when you misread the post claiming I only wrote it to exclude your participation CreekDog Dec 2013 #70

You need to take a breath. Really. You are reading way too much into this. Glassunion Dec 2013 #72

people posting conservative things are always giving me advice about breathing CreekDog Dec 2013 #79

Here we go pintobean Dec 2013 #82

It's your idea, you do the paperwork CreekDog Dec 2013 #83

It's your game pintobean Dec 2013 #84

No, you tried to give me orders and make me do your dirty work CreekDog Dec 2013 #86

See post #81. /nt pintobean Dec 2013 #87

No I don't see it CreekDog Dec 2013 #89

Trifecta! Glassunion Dec 2013 #85

It's been like this for years. pintobean Dec 2013 #90

His goal isn't discussion or understanding, but the opposite. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #94

I see you've made a new friend CreekDog Dec 2013 #99

for the people answering that it would be easier if black CreekDog Dec 2013 #41

I noticed that. WTF indeed. DLevine Dec 2013 #44

Fucking trolls Feral Child Dec 2013 #54

Why did you ask a question in which any of the answers are wrong? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #76

the polls show DU to be a very progressive place...this poll shows that as well CreekDog Dec 2013 #78

For someone uninterested in answers, you ask a lot of questions. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #80

i'm uninterested in *your* answers because it was heading in an Archie Bunker direction CreekDog Dec 2013 #134

He posts polls to do research on DUers that answer them. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #81

No, I post polls to either gauge overall support of an issue CreekDog Dec 2013 #88

Then what are you talking about here: Skip Intro Dec 2013 #91

what i'm talking about is what I said CreekDog Dec 2013 #92

Why in the world would you be ashamed CreekDog? Thes "polls" do exactly what any push-poll does. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #104

it's a push poll when we ask basic questions about the existence of racism and disadvantage here CreekDog Dec 2013 #105

Oh, I'm sorry... bluesbassman Dec 2013 #109

well if you think we should be through discussing racism and disadvantage on DU CreekDog Dec 2013 #110

Thoughtful and genuine discussions about racism and disadvantage are always enlightening. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #127

actually most of the people arguing with me didn't vote in the poll CreekDog Dec 2013 #128

Well I'm sure the collective Progressive consiousness of DU has been elevated by your poll. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #129

so sorry my polls don't meet your obviously high scientific standards CreekDog Dec 2013 #130

No need to apologize, your polls are sorry enough. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #131

go talk to your friend HopeHoops CreekDog Dec 2013 #133

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #140

How can you consider the poll results valid.. Upton Dec 2013 #138

Since you disagree with most DUers on most issues CreekDog Dec 2013 #145

"Since you disagree with most DUers on most issues" Upton Dec 2013 #148

That wasn't a moral observation, but an empirical one CreekDog Dec 2013 #149

As already suggested.. Upton Dec 2013 #151

i don't keep a dossier and i don't keep track of the people who vote stupidly in my polls CreekDog Dec 2013 #152

" to encourage unity on that which nearly all DUers agree" pintobean Dec 2013 #153

Yes, it is. CreekDog Dec 2013 #154

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #156

yes, they are alerting most of my posts CreekDog Dec 2013 #157

thanks for the alert! CreekDog Dec 2013 #158

LOL Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #159

With my simplistic and limited ability pintobean Dec 2013 #160

+1 lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #165

The problem is "we" are refusing to discuss it. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #136

Why would you consider your posts a "dossier" on you? CreekDog Dec 2013 #146

As of now, I'm as uninterested in your questions as you are in my answers. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #147

you should thank me. i probably stopped you from getting banned. CreekDog Dec 2013 #161

Why don't you tell me what I think about racial subcultures? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #162

The Meta threads were much better pintobean Dec 2013 #93

Oh yeah. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #95

if you feel so strongly about this, feel free to post a poll asking members here CreekDog Dec 2013 #97

I'm sorry I can't be more like you and Skip Intro CreekDog Dec 2013 #98

What does that bs have to do with pintobean Dec 2013 #100

why don't you post my "Meta disaster" so everyone can decide what they think CreekDog Dec 2013 #101

. pintobean Dec 2013 #106

afraid to let others judge whether it really is a "disaster"? CreekDog Dec 2013 #111

ROFL! n/t Skip Intro Dec 2013 #112

Wow. You are laughing pretty hard considering what you pulled in Meta last Christmas: CreekDog Dec 2013 #113

You're linking to a poster pintobean Dec 2013 #114

honestly, that you're defending this person is really a strike against them CreekDog Dec 2013 #115

Do you miss the toadies? pintobean Dec 2013 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Dec 2013 #117

if you don't like this place or liberal causes, nobody is forcing you to give liberals a hard time CreekDog Dec 2013 #118

No, it's about you. pintobean Dec 2013 #119

You follow me around, how could i get lonely? CreekDog Dec 2013 #120

maybe you can go support Skip Intro when he calls Trayvon Martin a racist CreekDog Dec 2013 #122

Link or you're lying. (You're lying). Skip Intro Dec 2013 #126

CreekDog lies. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #155

hey pintobean, here's what you're doing here --now everyone will understand CreekDog Dec 2013 #124

so you know that Skip did that which was described CreekDog Dec 2013 #121

enjoy the laugh, i understand you need one CreekDog Dec 2013 #125

Not That I Ever Had Much Money... ChiciB1 Dec 2013 #135

Why the fuck did I even open this Meta mess. HappyMe Dec 2013 #137

Nobody expects the inquisition rrneck Dec 2013 #139

is anybody forcing you to post here? CreekDog Dec 2013 #141

Okay. rrneck Dec 2013 #144