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20. I'm not in a position to forgive either one, as neither did anything to me. It's up to their victims

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:28 PM

Dec 2013

I'm not in a position to forgive either one, as neither did anything to me. It's up to their victims to forgive.

However, although I often separate the art from the artists, sometimes the artists becomes known by his non-artistic works. Albert Speer was a very talented residential architect.

And although I am, have been and will be boycotting the NFL until Vick is out of the league, his punishment is indeed over, he's cashing huge paychecks, has an adoring fan club, and you seem to care more about people's opinions of him than he himself does...

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Michael Jackson and Michael Vick. It's amazing how some people can't let shit go. [View all] CatWoman Dec 2013 OP

One of them was actually punished for his crimes. CBGLuthier Dec 2013 #1

...... CatWoman Dec 2013 #4

Nope, nothing sinister here XemaSab Dec 2013 #8

might not be sinister CatWoman Dec 2013 #13

He only paid 20 million in the 90's Politicalboi Dec 2013 #29

Aphrodite Jones Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #126

wtf are you laughing at? Someone's name? KittyWampus Dec 2013 #130

Oi Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #133

Do rape victims ever get to "let it go"? Your OP is offensive. KurtNYC Dec 2013 #137

Michael Jackson fucked little boys. zappaman Dec 2013 #140

Are you talking about Jackson, or Polanski? arcane1 Dec 2013 #77

Hmmmm. Well Michael Vick i don't think too much about because i don't like sports much el_bryanto Dec 2013 #2

Looks like you've proven your point! marsis Dec 2013 #3

I don't understand your post CatWoman Dec 2013 #5

What's not to understand. marsis Dec 2013 #17

lol CatWoman Dec 2013 #19

See whay you've done marsis Dec 2013 #85

If Bill Clinton had 12-yo girls over to his house and shared a bed with them XemaSab Dec 2013 #6

damn, that's kinda harsh CatWoman Dec 2013 #9

So you don't have a problem with a grown man XemaSab Dec 2013 #16

Uhhh, I don't think.... Blus4u Dec 2013 #129

There is no evidence Michael Jackson ever hurt a single child. n/t cynatnite Dec 2013 #12

This ^^ kiva Dec 2013 #14

! i know i'm going to hell, but the mental imagine of jimmeh running a dogfighting ring out back of dionysus Dec 2013 #87

Nailed it. n/t TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #124

You are right about Michael Jackson, Catwoman. Whisp Dec 2013 #7

So you think it's normal for a grown man to sleep with boys? lunamagica Dec 2013 #88

push off. Whisp Dec 2013 #92

No, of course not. That's the thing. On the one hand, I don't doubt Jackson behaved inappropriately nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #98

Michael Vick, unlike little-boy fucker Michael Jackson, actually served time. zappaman Dec 2013 #10

I think I threw up over your entire post CatWoman Dec 2013 #15

Let's not forget dangling a baby outside a hotel window. Rex Dec 2013 #18

Imagine being so enthralled by a celebrity zappaman Dec 2013 #31

I hear that, I will defend some crazy things but I do draw a line Rex Dec 2013 #40

Exactly...nobody cared. zappaman Dec 2013 #43

to the contrary, many were upset/outraged about the baby dangling incident CatWoman Dec 2013 #45

Nobody cared..who was close to him. zappaman Dec 2013 #47

Oh, that freaked me out. HappyMe Dec 2013 #50

I agree, he decided to crawl into bed. Rex Dec 2013 #48

actually CatWoman Dec 2013 #44

It's okay. zappaman Dec 2013 #46

Someone drank their Haterade this morning. Initech Dec 2013 #55

Ya got me! zappaman Dec 2013 #57

I do too. Initech Dec 2013 #58

... zappaman Dec 2013 #63

.... CatWoman Dec 2013 #72

... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #97

I believe Aphrodite Jones and her book Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #135

Has Aphrodite Jones seen MJ's cock? XemaSab Dec 2013 #136

Is it bigger than a bread box? Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #138

If it was a shakedown XemaSab Dec 2013 #141

LOL CatWoman Dec 2013 #59

Sometimes it suits people to not let go. It helps them keep their moral high ground... cynatnite Dec 2013 #11

I'm not in a position to forgive either one, as neither did anything to me. It's up to their victims LanternWaste Dec 2013 #20

One was actually proven guilty, the other one wasn't and was trashed duffyduff Dec 2013 #21

one was found guilty, served time and still being trashed CatWoman Dec 2013 #23

Well, Vick actually did what he was accused of Scootaloo Dec 2013 #27

Michael Jackson is dead, so there isn't much HappyMe Dec 2013 #22

there are two huge threads on the subject CatWoman Dec 2013 #24

What? HappyMe Dec 2013 #25

LOL CatWoman Dec 2013 #34

No harm, no foul. HappyMe Dec 2013 #38

Just because someone served their time NuclearDem Dec 2013 #26

^^^ this ^^^ TDale313 Dec 2013 #61

... yes.... but you don't do EVERYTHING because you're obliged to, do you? sibelian Dec 2013 #86

Neither am I. 840high Dec 2013 #108

much too-do about nothing here... Bennyboy Dec 2013 #28

and you also started the thread about the black heros CatWoman Dec 2013 #35

+1 and thanks for the thread.... jaysunb Dec 2013 #49

You remind me of a guy I saw at a concert joeglow3 Dec 2013 #79

UGH! Texasgal Dec 2013 #30

I wasn't aware I was telling you you couldn't have an opinion CatWoman Dec 2013 #36

well thank you for that. Texasgal Dec 2013 #42

Dave Chappell sums it up Politicalboi Dec 2013 #32

+1 Go Vols Dec 2013 #94

Both POSs because of their actions bigwillq Dec 2013 #33

Let it go or else! trumad Dec 2013 #37

Yay! A fresh outrage! HappyMe Dec 2013 #39

hey baby CatWoman Dec 2013 #73

Come on! Be reasonable. Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2013 #41

It's an issue of maturity and grace ... 1000words Dec 2013 #51

What a load of apologist crap TheSarcastinator Dec 2013 #52

wow, dude... Blus4u Dec 2013 #132

Yeah, JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #53

I've always been torn on Michael Jackson LittleBlue Dec 2013 #54

Whatever the truth was, there, MJ was a perfect example of what happens when you Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #69

Probably one of the best analyses I've seen of the "Jackson problem"... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #99

Excuse me if im not ok with ANIMAL ABUSE!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #56

I am not ok with animal abuse either CatWoman Dec 2013 #62

we're expressing dislike for Texasgal Dec 2013 #64

Sometimes I just don't like somebody mokawanis Dec 2013 #60

i don't really care about people who think he is what you said Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2013 #95

You make a good point mokawanis Dec 2013 #101

Anything to do with them both being black and rich? HipChick Dec 2013 #65

yes, but i wouldn't put Jackson and Vick in the same category as i don't think JAckson JI7 Dec 2013 #66

You can tell a lot about a person from their obsessions. nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #67

+1 On the Road Dec 2013 #128

It seems to me, in the case of Michael Jackson, to be pretty much either/or. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #68

Michael Jackson was not a pedophile Skittles Dec 2013 #70

Have you read the list of all the porn found at his home and entered into evidence? lunamagica Dec 2013 #90

not getting into this Skittles Dec 2013 #106

And what normal pipi_k Dec 2013 #111

Yeah, boys go wild for kiddie porn...perfectly normal...sure lunamagica Dec 2013 #112

Wouldn't he have been arrested if that was true? nt U4ikLefty Dec 2013 #119

It is true. The evidence was filed. I guess you missed the link lunamagica Dec 2013 #131

Interestingly enough it's also pedophilia-grooming-like Major Nikon Dec 2013 #118

I set a personal record in yesterday's thread Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #71

word CatWoman Dec 2013 #74

Nothing stevil Dec 2013 #81

No, Dorian Gray Dec 2013 #107

I'm kicking this because it's the goofiest goddamn thing I've ever read, and I believe in sharing. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #75

One was a man having little boys sleep over in his bed and the other tortured animals for fun Marrah_G Dec 2013 #76

Kobe Bryant is still a rapist. nt Deep13 Dec 2013 #78

Michael Jackson has been dead for LibDemAlways Dec 2013 #80

Perhaps you should ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #82

ITA!!!!! mfcorey1 Dec 2013 #83

I really don't know much about the Michael Jackson thing. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #84

here's the evidence found at his home lunamagica Dec 2013 #89

Just because he had a house full of pictures of naked children XemaSab Dec 2013 #96

Let's be honest... zappaman Dec 2013 #100

Why, just today I was straightening the cushions of the couch and I found a stack of kiddie porn! XemaSab Dec 2013 #105

Wow, that is damning Beringia Dec 2013 #104

DUers certainly seem more willing to forgive Ted Kennedy for Chappaquiddick Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #91

Honestly, I don't care about Vick. Deep13 Dec 2013 #93

Perhaps that's because Byrd & Kennedy expressed real remorse & lived their lives in catbyte Dec 2013 #116

"Michael Vick to work with Humane Society on its campaign against dogfighting" Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #122

And how long did that last? (Insert eye roll here) catbyte Dec 2013 #134

They can both rot. MirrorAshes Dec 2013 #102

Well said malaise Dec 2013 #103

It doesn't bother me 840high Dec 2013 #110

Sell that shit to the dogs and the rescuers involved. flvegan Dec 2013 #109

I agree Beringia Dec 2013 #113

+1000 CrawlingChaos Dec 2013 #114

Sorry, CatWoman, but Vick was immersed in a long standing ring of horrific animal abuse catbyte Dec 2013 #115

Michael Jackson and Michael Vick were both disgusting human beings. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #117

My husband has worked with abused and neglected dogs for years. a la izquierda Dec 2013 #120

There's a difference pecwae Dec 2013 #121

I would love to know exactly why we should be expected to "let shit go". Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #123

This is just my opinion on MJ and MV7! Tim4319 Dec 2013 #125

Justice has no time limit StarrGazerr Dec 2013 #127

Nobody really knows if MJ was a child molester OwnedByCats Dec 2013 #139