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Moostache

(11,191 posts)
50. But therein lies the rub....
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 01:09 PM
Dec 2011

The equation is NOT balanced in this example!

The "producer" who is not going to sell something at a loss, but would rather destroy it does so for a very simple reason - to allow the excess to be sold at cost or given away would lessen his profit % on the portion that he DOES sell. In other words, the thing being protected is not the product or its viability or even the greater viability of the "market"; but the profits of the owner and ONLY those profit margins at the expense of any and all other solutions are what must be protected.

Now, if those profits are razor thin and provide ONLY enough margin for the owner to reinvest in labor and goods to raise another crop (or make another batch or run the factory for another day) and eke out his own meager existence in the process, then fine, I will gladly accept your hypothesis and say that destruction of the excess goods is an inevitable by-product of the market system. But that's NOT the truth of the situation.

Owners do everything in their power to increase their take while decreasing their costs - the so-called free market principles that get waxed on philosophically by every talking head and pundit from whatever think tank or institute you prefer . They hire the cheapest labor - those willing to work the hardest for the least and without questioning the conditions of the workplace or the inherent dangers of the positions, they use the cheapest possible materials in their process (that still provide an acceptable level of quality in their end product without denting the precious profit margin too much) and they dispose of waste products in the cheapest manner possible. They also will "invest" untold percentages of their net incomes in lobbying efforts and in greasing politicians...why? Its certainly NOT to protect their margins or the other producers in their markets...no, they do this because with that money they are buying favorable laws and favorable treatment from the government and regulators to ensure they can continue doing as they please in pursuit of ever greater profit margins.

When the owner takes an excessive percentage of the overall profit - at the expense of ALL other considerations, including how to most humanely and advantageously handle production excesses - then the system itself is broken and does more harm than good. The REAL issue is that to give away or sell at a loss the excess goods takes away from PROFIT MARGIN and decreases the owner's percentage take. It does not recognize that the REAL take of the owner should be calculated on the TOTAL productivity and NOT on the NET or SOLD product! This is the same level of thinking that allows corporations to outsource their costs through "externalities" - the assigning of costs to the community that houses the corporation instead of to the bottom line of the corporation itself. These can be things such as waste disposal, clean up or infrastructure improvements and upkeep, but they are NOT factored into the overall cost equation and THAT is criminal!

If you produce 1,000 apples and can sell the first 500 at a profit of $1 per apple, but in the process have to throw away the other 500 apples to protect your profit, then you are a craven capitalist and cannot understand the inherent evil of such a system. You do not account for hidden costs that are translated as your "profits"....things like the wasted resources that are consumed to make your profitable apples - fertilizer, water, labor, pesticides, machinery. The truth is that the $500 profit from those first 500 apples is a PERSONAL gain, but the total loss of the other 500 apples is a SOCIETAL loss. We all eat those costs for you! The excess materials that you use to create the excess goods you destroy are REAL costs, they are just shifted from the private to the public and everyone is supposed to go on believing this is good forever.

IT. IS. NOT.

The REAL profit margin on your goods should be $0.50 per apple (OR LESS!!!) - $1 per apple for the first 500 and $0 per apple for the next 500 (maybe even a loss of $0.25 per apple) - the overall NET is what you are entitled to as the owner, but the system allows you to claim the profits of the first 500 without accounting for the total costs of the 1000 made!

Capitalism in its pure and unrestrained form is evil incarnate! Its adherents are incapable of recognizing this without saying things like "socialism", or "communism" or some other pejorative label that really does NOTHING to address their own culpability or shortcomings and instead relies on the fear of the uninformed to protect them and to deflect the argument and obfuscate the issue.

You show me a "businessman" who is worried about his excess productivity creating a drag on the market cost of his goods and I will show you a greedy son of a bitch that IS THE PROBLEM and not just part of the problem...

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In the great depression... rgbecker Dec 2011 #1
EXACTLY. This is not a productivity problem, it is an INCOME problem. aletier_v Dec 2011 #6
Problem is, the "leaders" of our nation, and those who control our leaders truedelphi Dec 2011 #56
Sad commentary on the state of humanity. tabatha Dec 2011 #2
Empty homes decrease property values further. boppers Dec 2011 #3
They're most likely tearing down the ones deemed to be hazardous Warpy Dec 2011 #11
My thoughts, as well. nt MADem Dec 2011 #16
Yes, they are. Some of the houses are little more than shells. eppur_se_muova Dec 2011 #28
"The banks" can learn nothing. Igel Dec 2011 #34
Wish I could rec your post for its insight into coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #46
The house right next to ours is a perfect example SoCalDem Dec 2011 #48
but if you listen to morons like Limbaugh or Gingrinch, we need "more productivity". aletier_v Dec 2011 #4
Reminds me of Steinbeck's descriptions of destroying piles of fruit when people are starving deutsey Dec 2011 #5
+1 Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #22
That's the producer-side. Igel Dec 2011 #35
Hence the problem with the system, imo deutsey Dec 2011 #40
The social contract of a civilized society should include, CrispyQ Dec 2011 #53
But therein lies the rub.... Moostache Dec 2011 #50
I have seen this before NNN0LHI Dec 2011 #7
Almost as depressing as their report on homeless school kids in FL a few weeks ago. Bozita Dec 2011 #8
If you actually believe those houses torn down were worth that much, don't fall for it. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #9
agree - but the remarkable part is that the county/city is spending $150 million to banned from Kos Dec 2011 #10
The county and city will bill the owner of the house for the tear-down. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #17
Really? ... Going after the banks? Bozita Dec 2011 #18
The property owner gets notified of the impending decision. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #19
Please Clear Up The Confusion... They Will Go After The "Owners" Of The House... WillyT Dec 2011 #21
Banks. nt NutmegYankee Dec 2011 #30
Whoever has their name recorded as deed holder gets the bill. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #31
Very few houses in this country SheilaT Dec 2011 #20
neither are cars shanti Dec 2011 #29
At least cars have become much, much SheilaT Dec 2011 #58
and very few are built to suit the climate. demigoddess Dec 2011 #39
The advent of air-conditioning SheilaT Dec 2011 #59
The absurdity of Capitalism. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #12
Exactly! mckara Dec 2011 #33
Refinancing - cashing out equity BOHICA12 Dec 2011 #13
yes but we have trillions for our enemies in the pentagon, the squanderers of the nation's wealth n msongs Dec 2011 #14
Yes. And there was plenty of food in Ireland during the Great Hunger... annabanana Dec 2011 #15
I liked the County Official's attitude. NutmegYankee Dec 2011 #23
There are a couple homes that have sat empty here abelenkpe Dec 2011 #24
I don't get it. Wouldn't the banks rather get SOME income from the house Kablooie Dec 2011 #25
I believe the County is taking the land from the banks NutmegYankee Dec 2011 #32
The house would have to be brought up to code first. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #37
Two problems with that theory-- mistertrickster Dec 2011 #42
Before getting an occupancy permit from the city, code violations must be rectified. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #44
It happens in my city everyday. nt mistertrickster Dec 2011 #54
Saw it... I wonder if they feel that they shouldn't occupy their homes, fuck the banksters... MrMickeysMom Dec 2011 #26
K & R Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #27
Cleveland has lost half is population in fifty years Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #36
Looks like a steam shovel ready job to me Fla_Democrat Dec 2011 #38
The city paid $150 million to tear these places down frazzled Dec 2011 #41
If you live in a house and don't maintain it, you get fined. mistertrickster Dec 2011 #43
This is exactly WHY Bailing Out the Banks during the "Troubled Assets" crisis.... bvar22 Dec 2011 #45
And later on in the telecast, they featured Meryl Streep in her new movie about Margaret Thatcher. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #47
I think what they failed to mention is the banks didn't lose a dime on those foreclosures.... dmosh42 Dec 2011 #49
Housing is nothing more than something to make money from in their eyes AZ Progressive Dec 2011 #51
When China relocates entire cities, towns, and villages we proclaim we are better than that... hunter Dec 2011 #52
"Disposable". Trillo Dec 2011 #55
HOUSE THE HOMELESS Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #57
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