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Proud Liberal Dem

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4. There are no non-religious reasons AFAIK
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 02:15 PM
Mar 2012

to be against contraception, abortion, gay marriage, etc. The problem is that these issues, which used to get fought over and (maybe) eventually settled in the churches have no become explosive issues in the political realm with politicians assuming the role of being the country's (or state's) pastors/spiritual advisers- even though they're SUPPOSED to be making public policy on the basis of rational, evidence-based reasons that are supposed to serve the broader welfare of the citizens of this country, not narrow denominational faith-based reasons. The wall that's supposed to be separating church and state has been ridden with bullet holes (if not larger) since the 1980's and there does not seem to be any indication whatsoever that it's going to get better before it gets (much) worse.

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Nat Hentoff comes to mind. He was secular and anti-abortion. immoderate Mar 2012 #1
Hentoff, like a lot of medically ignorant antiabortionists Warpy Mar 2012 #15
Agreed. Hentoff kind of romanticized the fetus as a "person." immoderate Mar 2012 #22
I think if you really take the time to research, you'd find few Christian denominations are against hlthe2b Mar 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #3
There are no non-religious reasons AFAIK Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #4
Jesus spoke often about abortion... orwell Mar 2012 #5
I must have missed the Christian reasons gratuitous Mar 2012 #6
Saying "I'm a D, he's an R" is hauling out a broad brush. stopbush Mar 2012 #14
No gratuitous Mar 2012 #16
The Bible is make believe. All religions are based on make believe. stopbush Mar 2012 #27
Yeah, that whole "serve one another in love" gratuitous Mar 2012 #30
Oh, please. The ethos of reciprocity dates back to ancient Egypt. stopbush Mar 2012 #32
So? gratuitous Mar 2012 #34
You're offering the broken clock argument for religious belief. stopbush Mar 2012 #35
Broad brushes for narrow minds. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #18
the only non-christian reason... Beer Snob-50 Mar 2012 #7
There might be. And people who have such reasons MineralMan Mar 2012 #8
Yes, egotism could be behind anti-contraception. And also abortion. sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #9
I'd be willing to bet there are some "back to nature" types who are against family planning Recursion Mar 2012 #10
Nothing comes to mind sakabatou Mar 2012 #11
On contraception, I got nothin'. On abortion... FATNED Mar 2012 #12
A further extension to that is SATIRical Mar 2012 #17
Yes, and it's the most common reason to oppose contraception, even among Christians. IT HURTS PEOPLE saras Mar 2012 #13
Not sure about the first... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #19
Not just Christians OPOS Mar 2012 #20
Roman Catholics, Mormons, and some fundamentalist groups are the only Christian groups I know of Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #21
No Aerows Mar 2012 #23
Contraception? I'd say it isn't even an issue among most Christians, so I'd lean toward no and TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #24
I've spoken of my atheist tea-party friend before OriginalGeek Mar 2012 #25
I wouldn't want to see contraception or abortion forced on women Cleita Mar 2012 #26
Thoughtful, reasonable people will be outbred by careless idiots? FarCenter Mar 2012 #28
Since most Christians aren't against contraception onenote Mar 2012 #29
Yes, but such reasons probably don't feature much in America LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #31
The most conservative Islam clerics oppose contraception muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #33
The idea that sex should be for procreative purposes only has nothing to do with religion lapislzi Mar 2012 #36
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