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MattSh

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10. The EU has way too many headaches already...

Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:22 AM

Dec 2013

without adding Ukraine, which would make most of their other headaches look minor by comparison. There was no offer to join the EU; there was only an offer of increased trade, which would have been highly detrimental to Ukraine.

The EU doesn't particularly want Ukraine, but wants to move Ukraine away from Russia. The EU offered Ukraine no carrots, and only 10% of a stick. (The rest of the EU stick was reserved for ongoing protests in Greece, Spain, Portugal and elsewhere). They made an offer that any sane government should have refused but knew that they could instigate street protests if Ukraine said no. This article explains how it's done.

http://www.countercurrents.org/lendman290609.htm

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Battleground: Kiev [View all] MattSh Dec 2013 OP

Really good to hear the views of someone on the spot. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #1

Pardon my tinfoil hat but - can you say CIA? dballance Dec 2013 #2

More or less the same as Georgia 2008. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #5

Thank you! Stay Safe! If possible try to keep us posted. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #3

btw dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #6

Thanks for the info laundry_queen Dec 2013 #7

My grandparents emmigrated from Ukraine. Jenoch Dec 2013 #8

Im from East Europe myself darkangel218 Dec 2013 #9

The EU has way too many headaches already... MattSh Dec 2013 #10

You know, its not everything about money. What about the cultural aspect and travel restrictions? darkangel218 Dec 2013 #12

Indeed. It is not hard to imagine why people would rather cast their long term futures with Europe pampango Dec 2013 #13

Strangely quiet in Kiev this morning. MattSh Dec 2013 #11