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DragonBorn

(175 posts)
157. Question
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:27 PM
Dec 2013

Why does this require a new law? Four porn actors got infected with HIV this year. That really sucks for them but don't thousands of people get infected everyday?

This may be disaterous to the individual and I don't want to seem calous but its such a statistical blip does this even merit this debate? Thousands, possibly tens of thousands of actors do porn in this country every year and only four got infected with HIV. I'd say that's a pretty damn good percentage that remained uninfected. In fact if ONLY 1000 people did porn in this country thats an infection rate of 0.4%. (Someone check my maths) so 99.96% of porn actors remained uninfected and this is only if there are 1000 actors in the US, which is a lowball estimate.

If my numbers are correct there are 1.1 Million people with HIV in America. Out of 300 million thats .33% of the entire population, so considering the low sample size of the actors I would say this is pretty on track for standard infection rates across the country.

One other point, how do we know that they didn't contract HIV in their personal lives? I mean their porn stars, they must be having sex right? Has anyone of these HIV infections been tracked to having been infected as a result of a movie shoot?

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I believe in mandating condoms in porn. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #1
I'm not sure I can come down on either side of the issue... Agschmid Dec 2013 #2
Good point. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #3
How would you do that? closeupready Dec 2013 #52
make a federal law stating the the industry has to use condoms. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #78
And the Mexican and Canadian porn industries explode... n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #79
As pointed out to me the feds probably could not make the law stick. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #82
Or worse: German. arcane1 Dec 2013 #101
no russian is where its at, and czech loli phabay Dec 2013 #135
That would be an illegal law, like flag-burning laws. closeupready Dec 2013 #80
Your probably right. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #81
This isn't a speech issue, it's a health and safety issue. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #117
"Why should porn actors not be" [required to use condoms]? closeupready Dec 2013 #119
Meaningless hypothetical. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #121
Okay, well, let's agree to disagree. I see that closeupready Dec 2013 #123
it is a workplace so Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #126
is it illegal to require chicken processors to wear rubber gloves or cooks to wear hair nets? KittyWampus Dec 2013 #144
Chicken processors are not concerned with "artistic integrity" jberryhill Dec 2013 #147
But they are paid employees working for a corporation. Amazing how some DU'ers KittyWampus Dec 2013 #154
Whooosh.... jberryhill Dec 2013 #155
disease prevention is not a free speech issue. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #149
I'd be willing to wager it's all that unprotected fuckin NightWatcher Dec 2013 #4
Well, no thinking person has ever said that, but I've seen it said here on DU. Kind of a lot. Squinch Dec 2013 #5
You don't think that there are porn actors who, during their off-time, joeybee12 Dec 2013 #24
That may be, but it would reduce the chance of passing it on the set, so it does matter lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #74
That's a pretty broad generalization about young people? Agschmid Dec 2013 #87
That was the point being made. Squinch Dec 2013 #110
Porn is global LittleBlue Dec 2013 #6
Works for me alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #8
But are you going to do all that travel to your engagements? jberryhill Dec 2013 #68
Well, in that case... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #109
That can not be helped. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #9
Their health won't be impacted LittleBlue Dec 2013 #12
So what? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #14
So a law requiring condoms in one state is pointless LittleBlue Dec 2013 #16
It would easily survive a court challenge MattBaggins Dec 2013 #22
Well, their taxes will move too LittleBlue Dec 2013 #27
Let them move then MattBaggins Dec 2013 #29
What I'm asking is, what have you accomplished with this regulation? LittleBlue Dec 2013 #31
should be a federal mandate MattBaggins Dec 2013 #32
Good luck with that LittleBlue Dec 2013 #46
Must watch TV on CSPAN. Best ratings ever. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2013 #95
"Let them move who cares." DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #33
Ok there internet tough guy MattBaggins Dec 2013 #34
No, it's a response to someone who has not thought the issue through... DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #38
I have access to those test and others MattBaggins Dec 2013 #48
You come across as not knowing how the "tests" are conducted... DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #53
You think you are an expert MattBaggins Dec 2013 #59
Your rants are very revealing... and your agenda is transparent DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #104
Treat accordingly just as they would in a hospital for a needle stick MattBaggins Dec 2013 #112
"As long as you can whack off you don't give a fuck about worker protection?" DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #114
This might be out there... Agschmid Dec 2013 #118
Just like gun laws! seattledo Dec 2013 #152
Yeah, it's not like porn workers are important or anything BainsBane Dec 2013 #58
Why would you compare porn workers to animals? LittleBlue Dec 2013 #63
What I am reading seems to say the hell with their health, they generate BILLIONS!!! IN REVENUE NT Mojorabbit Dec 2013 #83
I have noticed that you care a great deal about animal rights BainsBane Dec 2013 #85
Control what you can, not what you can't. This is a public health issue in a specific industry, and lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #75
so lets get rid of all labor laws since factories move to places like China JI7 Dec 2013 #76
How Republican of you… lets not regulate business because they'll move. You didn't think through KittyWampus Dec 2013 #145
So MANY ignorant statements made about the "porn" industry... DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #7
We're on an internet message board. Everyone knows everything about everything. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #11
lol, yup, pretty much. closeupready Dec 2013 #56
#2 Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #39
on a porn studio set? name one instance... DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #91
cameron bay Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #96
didn't contract on set DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #97
don't fall for the porn industry Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #99
so you ignored that your previous post was false, DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #100
moving to avoid cobdom law Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #103
you changed the topic a third time... do you own stock in condom companies? DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #106
the porn producers moved to avoid Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #108
No I am not a porn producer, and I am also not ignorant about stupid laws DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #111
it needs to be nationwide to work Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #113
current testing is blood work DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #130
I'm not sure you can... Agschmid Dec 2013 #105
I agree, it is really hard to "prove" where a transmission has occurred DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #107
Read this article... Somewhat GRAPHIC (words not images) Agschmid Dec 2013 #129
+1 Agschmid Dec 2013 #89
FACT: Individual humans don't always abide by rules/regulations but government has an interest KittyWampus Dec 2013 #146
Thanks for the insights Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #150
FACT: They could have been infected for some time before their tests were positive Ino Dec 2013 #165
Haha oh wow, what a deceptive op Kurska Dec 2013 #167
I disagree with any laws requiring condoms. William769 Dec 2013 #10
The headlines about the "porn stars" with HIV are sensational DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #15
Wrong answer MattBaggins Dec 2013 #19
Wrong answer. William769 Dec 2013 #20
You are arguing my point MattBaggins Dec 2013 #23
I don't see how. William769 Dec 2013 #26
Unmarried couples are not at work in a regulated industry MattBaggins Dec 2013 #28
Actors in the porn industry get TESTED before they go to work DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #35
An HIV test takes 30 minutes but i still have to wear gloves at work MattBaggins Dec 2013 #40
because you can still Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #41
Because you could still be infected. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #84
Yes but it takes a whole for it to show up on tests? Agschmid Dec 2013 #90
A very simple concept is personal responsibility. William769 Dec 2013 #36
Same as with other industries MattBaggins Dec 2013 #42
I side with personal freedom. To bad you don't. William769 Dec 2013 #45
If someone wants to make movies with animals and harm them MattBaggins Dec 2013 #51
In my best southern charm William769 Dec 2013 #54
So now you are just making shit up DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #55
this is a worker safety issue Tumbulu Dec 2013 #131
Even I think your attack is flawed... Agschmid Dec 2013 #133
Who the hell wants to wear gloves Tumbulu Dec 2013 #160
Sounds like you are a dentist or in the medical field... DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #47
If they were operating with their penis then yes. MattBaggins Dec 2013 #57
Tyvek Porn - sounds kinky! DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #60
Honest Question DragonBorn Dec 2013 #153
The vast majority of the workers oppose Measure B. Chan790 Dec 2013 #162
Yes. This is a free country. Sex is not a topic closeupready Dec 2013 #69
... William769 Dec 2013 #70
A studio isn't "a couple", it's a business. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #44
They also don't suggest, ask, persuade or convince people in porn to wear a condom. William769 Dec 2013 #49
re: 'Employers have an obligation to protect the health and safety of their employees. " DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #50
Yeah, if OSHA has that right, why haven't they made porn stars wear condoms? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #73
"Nanny State?" Where have I heard that terminology before? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #128
predictable response Tumbulu Dec 2013 #132
I'm pretty sure OSHA feels the same way I do. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #134
OSHA is in charge of worker safety Tumbulu Dec 2013 #161
Great. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #166
You have sex as a business venture? Tumbulu Dec 2013 #168
It really bothers you that some people like to have sex w/o a condom, doesn't it? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #169
You cannot understand work vs private life? nt Tumbulu Dec 2013 #170
I don't think you could create a law which would successfully enforce safe sex for porn workers. Agschmid Dec 2013 #171
Like OSHA? LanternWaste Dec 2013 #30
Does OSHA have a regulation now on the subject. William769 Dec 2013 #43
The point is that workers deserve basic protection from workplace injury BainsBane Dec 2013 #62
Let's go all the way & save a child, Mandatory birth control in the porn industry. William769 Dec 2013 #66
child birth is neither a disease nor an injury BainsBane Dec 2013 #71
Condoms are not 100% William769 Dec 2013 #72
Question DragonBorn Dec 2013 #157
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #158
How about basic safety for workers? BainsBane Dec 2013 #61
Put it this way let's stop unwanted pregnancies. William769 Dec 2013 #65
+1 Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #77
Respectfully, I must disagree. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #151
They say Michigan mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #13
not sure if you are joking... there has to be a joke in there :) DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #18
There was a report on our local news mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #25
What's OSHA got to say about this? B Calm Dec 2013 #17
Think it through... DontTreadOnMe Dec 2013 #21
That was my first thought, B Calm, indie9197 Dec 2013 #115
Until recently there was a nonprofit in Hollywood which gave std testing to adult entertainers. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #37
How many folks that do not work in porn have tested positive this year? bigwillq Dec 2013 #64
Start it please... Agschmid Dec 2013 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author bigwillq Dec 2013 #98
Condoms would kill the "rape porn" industry. zappaman Dec 2013 #67
What exactly makes someone a "porn actor"? Bennyboy Dec 2013 #86
Predictable thread is predictable LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #88
It is. Agschmid Dec 2013 #93
LOL! Yup! Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #116
But hey it's getting people to think about HIV/AIDS... Agschmid Dec 2013 #120
True too. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #122
Apparently on DU it you need to sensationalize things before people notice. Agschmid Dec 2013 #124
For the most part, you are correct. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #125
aha! LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #163
Thanks! Agschmid Dec 2013 #164
Firemen need to wear turnout gear, cops need yo wear body armor, miners need to have lanterns, AuntFester Dec 2013 #94
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #102
and the femals "actors" Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #127
That's really horrible. Risk your life or give up your job. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #138
Welcome to DU AuntFester. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #136
Hey, thanks! AuntFester Dec 2013 #159
I wonder if the op purposely left this part out? Soundman Dec 2013 #137
No the OP did not. Agschmid Dec 2013 #139
We agree on some points, Soundman Dec 2013 #141
Good glad we agree mostly. Agschmid Dec 2013 #142
I read that. That shoud probably be a thread of its own. n/t Soundman Dec 2013 #143
Consider it done. Agschmid Dec 2013 #148
Here. Agschmid Dec 2013 #140
there will always be amateur/homemade porn cbdo2007 Dec 2013 #156
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