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RZM

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Mon Mar 12, 2012, 03:02 PM Mar 2012

Why do people vote against their economic interests? Take a look at some threads here. [View all]

There are of course many reasons why this happens. Some people genuinely believe Republican policies are best for themselves and the economy. Others might not be fans of Republican economic policies, but vote on social issues or foreign policy.

But I suspect many aren't voting for Republicans as much as they are voting against Democrats - and among them, I'd guess distaste for liberals and progressives is a big part of that. There are many factors here as well, including racism, but I think it has to be acknowledged that many progressives can be quite condescending towards poor people who aren't solid Democrats.

With the Alabama and Mississippi primaries coming up and the recent Bill Maher piece, we're seeing this firsthand here on DU. In every thread about the south, you've got posters essentially saying that people there are subhumans. Lots of cracks about inbreeding, dental hygiene, and a general consensus that many people there are braindead idiots. It's not just about the south either. Many DUers seem to think that it's fine to call anybody who isn't rich and votes Republican a stupid, brainwashed idiot.

While most people have never heard of DU, let alone read it, I think this kind of thing matters. It's not as much about DU, but more about the fact that DU represents a slice of real-world progressive opinion. Stupid or not, people are quite attuned to what others think about them. They don't like being called idiots, racists, or brainwashed followers.

I'm not asking people to stop saying what they think. Nor am I asking anybody to stop being critical. I'm just asking people to think before they say this kind of stuff. While it might make one feel superior and be an occasion for back-slapping among the like-minded, that's about all it's good for. In the end, I think that it harms Democrats more than it helps them.

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Some good points CJCRANE Mar 2012 #1
That's why I said 'essentially saying' RZM Mar 2012 #2
Good points, except, Quantess Mar 2012 #3
Real positions on real issues should be discussed RZM Mar 2012 #9
the great divide KT2000 Mar 2012 #4
Most repukes libtodeath Mar 2012 #5
I agree. As a child of the South, I think it is dangerous for us liberals to continue Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #6
I pretty much agree RZM Mar 2012 #12
LOL! Comparing the lowlife Romney to a man politicasista Mar 2012 #42
They mock us. Why do we have to play nice but they don't? Zalatix Mar 2012 #13
Because we are better than them? cbayer Mar 2012 #16
You don't have to do anything RZM Mar 2012 #17
I live in the South and I consider myself part of the "they" the OP is talking about. antigone382 Mar 2012 #19
You said a mouthful! dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #23
Rita Mae Brown on Yankees KamaAina Mar 2012 #26
I see your point, but it's ironic that the South has its own equivalent prejudices against the North Zalatix Mar 2012 #29
On the racism thing, there is this RZM Mar 2012 #31
Can't deny that's a pretty damning statistic. Zalatix Mar 2012 #32
The 1920s resurgence of the Klan Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #38
It's not necessarily about playing nice. It's all about being realistic about where we are. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #33
If we've been relegated to the nation's kicktoy then we've already lost. Zalatix Mar 2012 #35
You can get down and dirty without mocking folks. I think the president has been doing an Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #39
True, so let me explain it this way. Zalatix Mar 2012 #40
The thing is... Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #45
Someone posted this brilliant observation from Lakoff... Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #47
I vote against my economic interests when I vote democratic taught_me_patience Mar 2012 #7
In the past, maybe. But I can't understand a thinking person voting Republican today. Cal33 Mar 2012 #11
Some are being paid to do it. If they need the money, I don't blame them. But these Cal33 Mar 2012 #8
In my experience loyalsister Mar 2012 #10
There has been a major push Aerows Mar 2012 #14
I don't disagree that Republican opinion-makers are working overtime to get any advantage RZM Mar 2012 #15
Well Aerows Mar 2012 #20
30 years of demonizing the words "liberal", "progressive", and "Democrat". Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #18
Right wing and Republican Aerows Mar 2012 #21
No... they are voting FOR Republicans ingac70 Mar 2012 #22
I accounted for that in the post RZM Mar 2012 #24
Perhaps. LiberalAndProud Mar 2012 #25
In my personal experience, many people who say these types of things are far from 'elite' RZM Mar 2012 #27
Isn't it LiberalAndProud Mar 2012 #34
Yeah I guess you're right RZM Mar 2012 #36
Well truth be told for some the civil war never quite ended nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #28
Part of it is who is presented as liberals to the public SpartanDem Mar 2012 #30
It actually involves the mental definition of "elite" IMO........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #41
When you search for "sheeple" in the DU search box (so you are only searching within DU) Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #37
Good points. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #43
Repukes? Rethugs? I hate that stuff. thesquanderer Mar 2012 #44
Because most people are so brainwashed by the constant barrage of propaganda hobbit709 Mar 2012 #46
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